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The Open Gaming Collective (OGC) was an interesting announcement recently from a few bigger names, but the CachyOS team opted out of it and now we know why.

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[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 18 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, the whole situation with OGC and Bazzite is rather messy. From my understanding, you have conflicting accounts from two parties: one is from Bazzite and OGC, i.e. Kyle Gospodnetich and the other from Antheas Kapenekakis, the developer of the Handheld Daemon, a tool for configuring handheld devices that Bazzite uses (for now). Antheas' account can be read here.

From what I understand, there was an internal conflict between Antheas and another Bazzite developer (not Kyle), which caused a rift in the team. At the time Antheas was the one in talks with GPD to port HHD to one of their devices. The team was not aware of this and during this time, Antheas was removed from the team. Then, not being aware of the situation at Bazzite, GDP announced the collab and the Bazzite team, was of course unaware of the talks between Antheas and GDP, which is why they denied the whole thing.

Personally, I'm going to stop updating Bazzite for a while and see how this shakes out, because if Antheas' account is to be believed, the other Bazzite developer mentioned above, Derek J. Clark, is ripping stuff out of Bazzite, including HHD in favor of his own implementation Inputplumber, which is allegedly already causing weird stuff to happen like wifi no longer working on some devices.

On the other hand, I'm hesitant to believe everything Antheas said in his blog, because I simply don't know the guy and also, there's also some sketchy stuff in there like mentioning Derek's Inputplumber implementation being "fundamentally flawed" and not even attempting to explain why. If you're going to label someone's work as such, then I feel at least a cursory explanation why is in order. The other is "apologising on behalf of Kyle" and apologising in someone else's name never sat well with me.

[–] exu@feditown.com 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Sound like the typical "newish and relatively small project that hasn't figured out their organisational structure yet" problem

[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe. I'm leaning more towards the typical "letting developer toxicity run rampant" situation:

https://xcancel.com/SapphoSys/status/1999133657760673942

[–] exu@feditown.com 2 points 1 hour ago

Arguably still an organisation & governance issue, but this doesn't sound great for that dude

[–] rf_@lemmy.world 50 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

The main reason is that OGC looks like a sideways stick figure having a wank.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 hours ago

Oh, goddamnit!

[–] JingtheMerciless@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Now I can't unsee it. Help!

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Hazematman@lemmy.ca 14 points 15 hours ago

I think he's referring just to the letters OGC in the font they chose.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 96 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Hi,
We have thought about this but we opted out, since we do not see all too much benefit from our side. Handheld stuff is not our major focus. Also, we had some concerns that this could get a "burocractic loophole", which seemd to be more or less true so far.
Additionally, to us all this "initiative" locked like an emergency rushed thing, so that Bazzite finds new kernel maintainers and for other technical stuff after kicking the maintainer, which basically made most integration work for them
We neither want to be associated with "Playtron" too. There are more reasons, but Ill keep them out of the public

[–] mactan@lemmy.ml 22 points 15 hours ago

valid, last I looked playtron has crypto connections and I was confused to find that