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After 4 years of using Fedora KDE as my main OS with 0 issues or drawbacks, my workplace is now requiring all computers to be on Windows 11. Any suggestions to make the transition back more bearable?

My dissapointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined :(

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[–] user28282912@piefed.social 105 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Do not, under any circumstances, conduct any private business on it. What isn't being logged by Microsoft and shared with your employer, advertisers, various governments will be screenshot'd every n seconds. Additionally, I highly suggest, if you haven't already, to setup a separate VLAN for this device if you ever bring it home and connect it to your home network. Defender absolutely does passive sniffing and active network scanning now. It will also be collecting and logging visible SSIDs as well. Enjoy!

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 36 points 3 weeks ago

My wife has had her dog shit work PC on the network all this time without any of my forethought about this. She has problems everyday with that stupid OS. Fuck.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 weeks ago

Do not, under any circumstances, conduct any private business on it.

This is true of any work device regardless of the OS

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd like to add that you can setup Adguard or Pihole in your network to use microsoft telemetry blacklists to limit their sniffing. My work laptop constantly reminds me that I'm not connected to the internet although everything works fine, because it can't reach the captive portal 😄

[–] Lark7380@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you have links to those blacklists

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 12 points 3 weeks ago

I'm at work right now, but here is one I think I remember adding: https://github.com/pschneider1968/pihole-bl-msft-telemetry-bsi

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[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 61 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Sorry for your loss :( Same thing happened to me about a year ago.

I was the sole IT admin for a small company. Used Debian with KDE on a snappy little Thinkpad. No issues managing all the infra with it, even though most of it was MS trash. I used Reminnia for RDP into the Windows servers, and the Browser for all O365/Entra administration. A Windows 11 VM for the rare times I needed to test Windows-only apps or configs.

Worked like a dream, but then we got bought out by a huge competitor. Their IT team took everything over. I had to decommission my on-prem Linux servers, Ansible automations, Open Project tracking and FOSS ticketing system. Finally, I had to give up my Sweet little Linux Thinkpad and use their standard-issue HP Windows 11 garbage laptop. They were slow, clunky, buggy, and ugly, it was awful.

I quit a few months later after securing the job I have now. It pays about 35% more, has twice as much PTO, and about 50% of my workload is Linux stuff. It's so much better.

My advice, if it's truly non negotiable, install WSL first thing. It's not nearly as good as having actual Linux, because it's running inside of Microslop's horrid OS, but it's better than nothing. Try to be an advocate for FOSS at the company, see if you can convince leadership to let you implement Linux-based solutions wherever they might fit, make yourself the de facto expert on them so you at least get to work on Linux and FOSS infra.

Aside from that, start job hunting. Try to find a job that will let you be more Linuxy.

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[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago

Pressing F to pay my respects.

Sorry to hear that OP.

When old employer was bought out they tried to move us on to windows. It was shit. After non stop issues they gave in and let us keep linux.

[–] suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sorry to hear that. Our company recently got acquired, and every 4-6 months the new IT team tries to say, "but do you guys really need Linux? What for?". We answer them, in depth, every time, but then it just comes back up a few months later.

I'm scared one of these days they're just going to force the change on us, all productivity will grind to an absolute halt, deliverables will be missed, and eventually they'll backtrack but only after it's too late to recover the programs that got hosed in the process.

[–] tangonov@lemmy.ca 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Just ask them why they want to waste the money on licensing. Money is the language managers understand

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Although compliance is also a concern.

For us, on our Linux machines, they pay Canonical or RedHat for workstations 🤷‍♂️

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 30 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Just use the shovel your boss gives you. Back to your own preferences once you clock out.

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[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 3 weeks ago

Start doing a job search?

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

As a form of protest create README txt files everywhere that say things like "I wish I was using linux" and "friends don't let friends use windows".

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago

or only write instructions for Linux if you're really evil

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No amount of HRT would make this transition any easier my dude.

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[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 weeks ago

Switch workplace.

There are countless ways to bypass that (e.g. https://docs.linuxserver.io/images/docker-webtop/ running on a server) but honestly if a workplace does not value your expertise to hone your own tools, they don't really value you as an employee.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago

Winboat looks nice. I'm planning to play with it today. I'm also going to try distro box etc. Wish me a happy Virt-day. (yeah, yeah, I know where thee door is.)

[–] Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I think the problem with Linux in the workplace is that it's hard (read harder than Windows and MacOS) to setup to be managed devices. Especially if the company is a Microsoft shop to begin with. The IT security teams just don't know how to enforce the company policies on Linux machines. Enforce password policy, network credentials and managed apps. It easy with Intune for Windows and Mac. Much harder on Linux.

That's the reason I was given by my work place, when I was "forced" to switch from Linux to Windows.

[–] frosty@pawb.social 9 points 3 weeks ago

I'm hearing similar complaints from our IT leadership as well regarding Linux PCs. However, Linux is accepted in R&D labs and the cloud because those are network-segmented spaces with additional perimeter controls.

If true zero-trust ever comes to my company, perhaps they'll be a bit more receptive.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Especially if the company is a Microsoft shop to begin with.

Nonsense, MS has an Intune client for Linux.

The IT security teams just don't know how to enforce the company policies on Linux machines

Too bad. Skill issue. They need to learn how to manage Linux just like any other new tech.

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[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 19 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Uh. My condolences. Do they also force you to use the software installed on Windows? Otherwise you could just image Fedora and run it in a virtual machine inside of Windows 11. Technically, I guess that'd fulfill the requirement with Windows 11 on the computer... Just that you don't use it for more than log in, start the Linux VM and expand it full-screen.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

What if you do the reverse?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Good luck getting an admin to register your Windows VM with Active Directory.

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[–] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

At workplace, use whatever OS and tools allowed by company policy.

At home, use whatever OS and tools you like.

At least that is how I’m managing it.

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[–] ISolox@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Thanks for the info guys, good stuff!

Those of you who are telling me to look for a new workplace over an OS change are a bit crazy though lol. It's not quite that bad.

[–] jtzl@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Clearly I was not the first with that call to action.

But seriously, Windows is awful. I've had to use it lately, and it's comically bad. Like the OS shows me ads! Wtf!? In Fahrenheit 451, it describes the billboards as longer so you can read them while driving fast on the highway, and I feel like the ads Windows shows are basically a similar type of dystopian. And like, now you can disable more with menus, but then the disable option is like buried somewhere hard to find.

[–] tapdattl@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And as soon as you get an update all their shit is turned back on, and re-enabled, and edge (🤮) is back on the taskbar.... I hate microsoft so, so much.

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[–] furycd001@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Depending on your computers specs & if it's allowed or not by your company.. You could always continue to use Fedora & run win-11 inside a VM with pass through enabled....

[–] LaSirena@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

This is what I did. They get to manage a Windows machine and I get to continue being more efficient at the job they hired me to do.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

https://gist.github.com/camullen/0c41d989ac2ad7a89e75eb3be0f8fb16

Just cut Windows out as much as possible and run everything in WSL. Setup everything to boot straight to all your WSL layers, and aside from the absolute shit Base OS, it should be the same.

[–] psion1369@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago
[–] ccunix@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

WSL is reasonable bearable, you can install Fedora instead of the default Ubuntu/Debian too. My work PC started out on 10 and is now on 11. I think I changed the terminal program, but the one I use may be the default in Win11. Honestly, I think the only programs I run outside WSL are a browser, DaVinci Resolve and Reaper (replaced Kdenlive and Ardour, both of which I prefer).

I am able to use the same neovim config on both my home (fedora) and work laptops, which is pretty handy.

At the end of the day it is their computer, not yours.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Doesn't having WSL under the hood negate Linux's inherent security?

I'd much rather have Windows shit containerized within Linux.

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[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Tell them you can’t switch due to some incompatibility and then just don’t do it.

[–] tangonov@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago

You may run Fedora in WSL2. This is what I do. My work is largely command line based. Use Wezterm. If you must, launch GUI apps from there. I'm running graphical Emacs daily just fine this way. My coworkers don't have half the gas for our kubernetes pods that I do and that's by in large the fact that I refuse to lose my Linux chops

[–] ulu_mulu@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ask your IT to install Virtualbox (or vmware if that's what you have) and go on using Linux inside a VM.

That's what I did. I don't do absolutely everything on Linux because, for example, using MS Office directly on the PC instead of the web version in the VM is much more practical, but I do most things.

Edit: to add: work PC is provided by the company, not my own.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago

If they're a Microsoft shop you'd have better luck asking for hyperv

[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Run MS OS like an app, inside a VM. Retain your Linux install.

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[–] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago

Just in the right moment when windows got so reliable and safe /s

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If they want you to use something specific on your own device then you should be able to request a new device from them

[–] ISolox@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It was on a work issued device already, so I can't complain too much. Still sucks though after using it for so long.

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[–] fortes20_glazier@piefed.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago
[–] angrox@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

Well, why? Compliance? ISO certification requirement? Any chance of providing the requirements to Linux?

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