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What's your opinion on Ubiquiti/Unifi gear? (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 weeks ago by early_riser@lemmy.world to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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I bought into the ecosystem while taking my networking cert classes back in 2017. They were much cheaper than Cisco gear for business-grade networking, and overall I've been happy with them.

Their security offerings are locally managed, and you can make local accounts, but I just bought a NAS from them and I had to sign in with my ubiquiti account first before I could make a local account, and it seems the cloud account has some privileges that you can't give to local super admins.

So now I'm having second thoughts. I figure since it's enterprise-grade stuff they can't really make it cloud-dependent like you see on the consumer side since a lot of companies need air-gapped networks. On the other hand, on those occasions that I didn't have internet access and hadn't yet made a local-only account, I was locked out, so...

Regarding the NAS specifically, I use a TruNAS system at work and it works well enough on a rack server, but since it uses ZFS I don't know it would be good for home use. What alternatives are there?

Are there any truly FOSS networking options? I figure especially on the switching side you need purpose-built hardware, right? There aren't generic motherboards with 48 network ports you can buy.

I like my Unifi setup, I'm just scared of a rug pull.

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[–] fraksken@infosec.pub 2 points 3 weeks ago

I'm in the process of updating m homelab. Threw out the qnap nas, replaced it with a homebuild nas on Truenas (4x8TB HDD, 4x1TB SSD). Replacing my ubiquity edgerouter pro 8p with a Mikrotik hEX refresh. About a 10x speedup for throughput, 20x smaller, 1/4 power consumption. Next I'll be looking to replace my edgeswitches. I can run them stand alone, so there's no rush.

I am not going to buy myself deeper into ubiquity. I'll just try to optimize for the current needs.

If you want true foss, run pfsense or opsense on your own hardware.

[–] johnnixon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I've run OPNsense, PFsense, OpenWRT, and high end consumer routers and I've found Unifi the most stable. I'm also less able to screw it up and I've had to divert functions to VMs because I couldn't do it on my UDM. But having Internet service fail over with notifications that the normies in the house can understand is helpful. Then being able to find the WI-FI password for the Iot network from the app is helpful. VLANS by port through a pretty simple WebUI is helpful. Their handing of power (do they support NUT yet?) and redundant links is less good. I get errors when I have two routes between switches like I broke something. I've brought the network down due to STP not stopping loops but I also don't know what the hell I'm doing. I'd do it again though.

For NAS, ceph storage plus NextCloud plus WebDAV has been good lately but I'm sure I'm leaving performance on the table. It's just hard to break.

[–] CoreLabJoe@piefed.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

I've been using Unifi APs since 2017 and they are fantastic. I control them with the Unifi Network Application via docker compose. Incredibly well priced APs that fit right into the 'prosumer' market for sure and still powerful enough to do SMB no problem.

As for FOSS Networking options - OPNsense FTW !!! It's an open source firewall/router based on FreeBSD and extremely performant, feature rich, stable and secure... Absolutely love it, it's the core of my network.

In regards to ZFS, I've been running a ZFS system of one type or another at home since 2013/2014... Totally valid & usable for home networks, many many do use ZFS storage systems. I'm very preferential to OpenMediaVault which is a NAS OS, but based directly on Debian! Debian is basically the Linux OS you want for reliability but paired with OMV's gui - makes having a custom NAS easy.

[–] talkingpumpkin@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

A NAS is just a computer and TrueNAS is just Linux (ok, TrueNAS CORE is Bsd).

You can run zfs on any machine: they recommend loads of RAM for optimal performance, which you don't need at home (or at work, unless your job is running a data center).

You can choose from a number of FOSS NAS-specific operating systems, plus all linux distros (since you post here, I'd assume you either can or aim to administer a home sever?)... why would you go with a proprietary OS?

There are several FOSS operating systems for network equipment too (keyword "NOS"), but as far as I'm aware none that work on small soho/edge switches. OpenWrt runs both my router (mikrotik) and WAPs (tplink), but the two 8-port switches I have at home (also tplink) run their proprietary firmware.

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[–] hydrian@twit.social -1 points 3 weeks ago

@early_riser I use #unifi for #switching and #wifi. I enjoy those products. I don't like their #NAS and #routing options.

I ran #pfsense for over a decade, but since the 2.8 release you can't do an offline install. So I switched to #opnsense.

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