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[–] SnailMagnitude@mander.xyz 5 points 58 minutes ago

Nice to see this pop up as Apple announce their 5yr plan to flood the world's landfills & scrap yards with 8gb fused ram Neo's.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

Yes, but if you are running Windows on them, do they still inject Chinese state-sponsored malware into Windows on every boot from UEFI/BIOS storage?

They were caught doing this on several occasions, to the point where Lenovo products are forbidden across significant swaths of the U.S. government and military.

[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

Err... were they? I remember vulnerabilities and a ban from SOME of the US gov agencies, but not clear if it was because of spying concerns or because they wanted a US supplier.

[–] quips@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

How this hasn’t killed all serious interest is beyond me.

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[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

My memory was fuzzy, but I think it wasn't UEFI but apps/drivers, but j could be wrong

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

You are correct, however they were malicious in nature and loaded on every boot from the UEFI/BIOS. They required Windows and auto-terminated the install if they already existed.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

They can't be a 10, only framework gets a 10. Nothing compares.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 20 points 4 hours ago

Lenovo not dropping the ball on their thinkpad reputation but improving it. Very impressive

[–] koncertejo@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 hours ago

The issue I had with my previous Lenovo Thinkpad wasn't that it wasn't repairable when it broke, it was. The issue was that the cost of just replacing the keyboard was prohibitively high. Higher than the cost of a new laptop. So it became e-waste.

[–] ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Get repairability too bad they start at 1200 USD

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 hour ago

I tend to buy T-series laptops once they are about 5 years old, and still have tons of life left in them.

I'll probably be looking for a T14 Gen 2 this year. Nothing wrong with my T495 'cept that my kid spilled water on it but fortunately only killed the hall sensor.

In fact, I thought the laptop was dead but I. Noticed a little corrosion on the hall sensor board, unplugged it, laptop started right up.

And it's still got plenty of life in it to hand down to my kid for Minecraft and such.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 44 points 7 hours ago

One thing to highlight: T-series Lenovo laptops are mainstream business products shipped at a huge scale.

This is not a small-scale experimental product for the tinkerers. This may define the biggest laptop segment if it works out well. It might be the first time in a while that something like this hits such a huge market.

[–] SpookyCoffee@lemmy.world 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 4 hours ago

Literally. Repairability used to be expected.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 19 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

Does 10/10 mean it's got RAM and drives accessible without needing to disassemble the whole fucking thing?

Nice to see both aren't soldered onto the motherboard, but we've still gone backwards in the last 20 years.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Back in the day every screw on thinkpads had a series of little symbols on them to tell you which ones you needed to undo in order to get to the ram, storage, keyboard, and fans. Without needing a repair manual. I hope they brought that back!

[–] neomachino@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

Holy shit I've never heard of this but that's awesome. I would love to see that nowadays

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 hours ago

without needing to disassemble the whole fucking thing

well you still need to take the bottom cover off

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[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 49 points 9 hours ago (8 children)

They got scared by Framework sucess

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago
[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 hours ago

I kinda doubt Framework's success, no matter how large by niche manufacturer standards, even reaches Lenovo's sales on a bad day.
Good that they're (apparently) changing though.

[–] hkspowers@lemmy.today 17 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Exactly, but it still won't get them my money. I believe in rewarding companies who had the balls to listen to their customers first with my dollars. Framework will be my next laptop no matter what any other competitor comes out with.

They're the only reason we're seeing any company starting to u-turn and make modular/repairable laptops.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Framework will be my next laptop no matter what

Big tent Framework?

[–] hkspowers@lemmy.today 4 points 3 hours ago

I was not aware of that stuff you linked, appreciate the sources and education. I read through them and damn... 😩 there's always some wacko ruining shit for the rest of us.

I agree that DHH guy sounds like a bigoted nut, but the thing about the Hyprland community being toxic doesn't sound any different to just about any other linux community. There's always some douche wanting to sound superior to others on the forums and usually a lot of them.

Elitest mentality kills just about any community enjoyment for a broad spectrum of intrests. So to me that's just background noise, the DHH thing though... you have a valid concern.

I don't think there is any truly clean competition sadly we seem to live in a world of the lesser evils instead of the lesser goods. I'll keep my eyes out and see if any better options come up, or if you have any recommends on companies to keep in mind.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 20 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Well, good...

Though reparability is a good part of it, another would be a concrete commitment that the form factor of various things will be consistent generation to generation, that Gen 8 boards will fit into a current laptop.

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[–] Tiger_Man_@szmer.info 2 points 4 hours ago

twinkpads have always been extremly based. writing it from my l540

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

But I won't buy anything lenovo, should I finally let that go?

[–] captcha_incorrect@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I have an X1 Carbon Gen 9 (so a few years old now). I wanted to replace my HDD and they (Lenovo) had videons on how to do it.

I'd say yes. But stick to ThinkPad series. I have an IdeaPad for work and I really which I told my boss to buy a ThinkPad instead. Keyboard has broken twice in 2 years.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, its less the durability, and more the long standing security issues:

  • Firmware flaws they didn't always patch
  • many vulnerabilities that were known
  • bundled apps that included known vulnerabilities
  • Installing software on first boot from hardware (discontinued)
  • Superfish injected ad traffic which allowed mitm attacks
  • hardware level backdoors

So most of these things get alleviated since I always wipe new computers and put Linux on them anyways. But the repeated poor decision, security, and anti consumer practices concerns me.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 hours ago

I used to work at a company that bought bulk electronics and refurbished them. Phones, laptops, whatever. Flooded crates of laptops weren't an issue, nor was human feces.

Anyway, since we weren't really an official partner of any of the manufacturers, we didn't have whatever in-house repair guides their own technicians would have. But what we did have was Google. And I'll tell you what, just google "Lenovo (model name) HMM" (Hardware Maintenance Manual) and you get an excellent official guide, freely available to everyone. For Thinkpads anyway, not sure about Ideapads. Example: Here's the current gen Snapdragon version of the T14s, on Lenovo's own website. They seem to keep older ones available too.

But to be fair, HP and Dell also do this for their professional gear.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Lenovo, you say...?

Its global headquarters are in Beijing, China, and its North American headquarters is in Morrisville, North Carolina, United States;[

Nah... I'll stick to MSI

[–] LunaZhu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

no noes chinese made hardware, it might have chinese spyware and all my data will be sent to the CCP! letme just continue using my AMERICAN HARDWARE with AMERICAN SPYWARE while sending all my information to the us government and copos instead of the CCP! walks away holding AMERICAN PHONE with always on cameras,mic and gps <3 At least when your data is sent to the ccp, its most definitely not going to affect you if you're not in china.

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