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New Xbox & AI CEO announced via Twitter ( not calling it x) the new “hybrid” console that will play Xbox and PC games.

In other words you know just a PC. Thus far it seems the system will use the exact same Xbox desktop experience as the “rog ally”.

While we all saw it coming and there isn’t much surprise. This to me says Xbox is dead as a platform.

It’s going to be expensive, it’s going to have Windows. It’s going to have co-pilot it’s going to have the same pop ups.

At least we get an Ally ROG desktop at most a Surface Gaming Desktop. Either honestly is a terrible idea. There will be most affordable options not tied to windows there will be mode powerful options at the same price. Even if you like the idea of going all in PC gaming this won’t be your best option.

If you want to stay a console gamer you’re going to have to switch teams …

RIP Xbox.

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[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 251 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Steam Machine, Steam Deck, Steam Frame. Pick your level of console.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 77 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Steam EVA Unit is my pick.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you pilot from the stomach area you would have extra padding

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[–] Corngood@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 month ago

List of things I buy the instant they will take my money. Also, grapheneos phone.

[–] 64bithero@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If your going Pc pre built route to me Valve built is the answer.

But to me this more lies with concerns with a true blue console experience.

Most people believe Microsoft will have little no success with this strategy either. Outside of hopes to “disrupt” steam machines market share I can’t see this going anywhere.

No matter how you slice it , I think it’s over.

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[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 116 points 1 month ago (38 children)

Is anything in the tech world interesting or good any more? I remember being excited 20 years ago for new inventions. Now its slop, slop, slop, authoritarian surveillance fascism, slop slop slop

Foss projects and indie games are about the only interesting thing now.

I'll go back to 2005 soon as someone invents a Foss time machine !

[–] myrmidex@belgae.social 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Imagine a non-FOSS time machine

We've successfully transferred your right foot to 2005! Please subscribe to our Premium plan to unlock full-body transfers.

[–] OneOfNaturesMysteries@piefed.zip 10 points 1 month ago

Non-FOSS time machine? It's 2005 as a service. Monthly subscription.

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 month ago

This knowledge does me no good if I can't go to one of these exoplanets and meet a nice Orion lady.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Is anything in the tech world interesting or good any more?

Steam Machine?

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[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 67 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I actually think it's a great idea. The problem is that Microslop is behind it.

[–] 64bithero@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah it can be , and Steam already did it and better. But it’s still not a console experience. It’s closer but it’s not equivalent. And for what Xbox has represented this isn’t it …

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

I think it's "console enough" that it could still work. Current consoles are really just locked-down PCs anyways.

It'd be no different than the OtherOS functionality on first-run PS3 consoles that allowed them to boot into Linux. Perhaps simpler than that even, given that current consoles already use standard PC hardware and not the Cell architecture the PS3 ran on.

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[–] TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 month ago (6 children)

It just sounds like a Steam Box that also steals your data.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 month ago

And then feeds it into the actual orphan crushing machine

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[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago (8 children)

I'm confused by the pessimistic reactions, though.

Companies converging towards the semi-open platform is a good thing. The locked down hardware and exclusives are not something we as customers asked for. It was something the cartel just shoved down our throats.

What bothers me is the backwards compatibility that microsoft has always just hand-waved in regards to the sunsetting of the xbox HW. A clear yes or no would be nice.

[–] sleepmode@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

In emulation and retro gaming forums I frequent the reactions seem mostly positive. Lots of questions surrounding backwards compatibility of course.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh God I know this will go over many people's heads but I was listening to a podcast where they where talking about the renewal of CUSMA (or USMCA for you Americans) and a senator said "I'm half inclined to think Donald Trump is ready to make a decision" to which Rob Russo, a journalist, rightly pointed out that was not clarity it is infact the absence of clarity. He then said, and this is why I laugh and the yes/no comment is so true.

"If I told my wife 'Im half inclined to take the garbage out today' she would not say that is a clear answer as to if I was going to do it"

Political and Business language needs to fuck off.

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[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You know, I'm okay with this. If it makes PC gaming more accessible, and if it offers meaningful competition for the Steam Machine, it's good to have options. Sure it's Windows, but if it's just a PC running an Xbox UX, I'm sure you could change the OS to whatever else if you want.

If anything, it does make the PS6 a less appealing choice, because why pick a dedicated console when you can get an (assuming) comparably strong, comparably priced gaming PC?

[–] 64bithero@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (5 children)

To me there is some value in having a true console experience. Put a disc in you know it works. Download a game and it plays as good as you can.

Even with Steam Deck you can download games that won’t work or won’t work well.

A lot of people don’t have the patience for that. And so long as consoles can stay under the PC equivalent price I think there will be value.

[–] chickenf622@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The issue is most games nowadays don't work on day one, and you'll probably have to download patches for it. The main selling point of plug and play for consoles is almost irrelevant with current publisher (and possible development) practices in the industry.

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[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I think Xbox is shutting its console side to compete directly with the PC market. Head-to-head with valve. Good luck. And by that I mean eat shit Microslop

[–] Solrac@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

You need log into your microsoft account and give us your goverment ID to start using your Windows Computer, powered by Copilot. Would you like to subscribe to Xbox Game Pass with Copilot? Would you like CoPilot to play games for you? Copilot is very helpful, it can take screenshots of your whole screen every few seconds to help remind you of what you were doing 3 months ago. Copilot is very helpful, it can work your browser, manage your files, write your letters, use your computer for you! All you need to do is say, Hey Copilot, because Copilot is always ready to listen to you! You want to install a software? Downloading software from sites can lead to malicious spyware! Use the Windows store instead! You need to log in to your microslop account and give us your goverment ID to browse the Windows Store. Windows is so useful, it can give you weather updates, remind you of that thing you were looking to buy, things you were looking for, straight from your Start menu and task bar! You want to install Steam? I'm sorry that's not available in the Windows Store, consider Subscribing to Xbox Game pass instead! You want to run something outside of our guardrails? Don't worry, if something goes wrong, you can use Recall to see whatever it is you were doing before you did something you regret!

Ok, I can't keep this up. I cannot fathom why the fuck anyone would tolerate Windows... No game, no software, no nothing, is worth keeping literal bloated spyware that wants to drain your wallet, safety, and privacy. -- I will continue to say this;

Just Switch to Linux. If you really need a guidance, just use Linux Mint or Zorin. Explore and try other things, don't be afraid of making the wrong choice, just pick a flavor, learn it, and own your stuff back.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If I'm going to buy a PC type console, it'll be the steam machine. No idea why anyone would go for something that has windows on it at this point. I guess some will buy it because it has the Xbox name but the value of that is waning.

[–] korazail@lemmy.myserv.one 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Tiny caveat: If the "windows tax" is less than the cost of building the device by parts -- which it might be -- then buying a new XBox Series X 360 Box X Box 360 One and installing linux on it might be a cost savings for a consumer... assuming no signed OS fuckery.

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[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 month ago (9 children)

With Steam Machine being announced and price about to be released, new xbox is dead even before arrival. I will be totally bemused if gamers will chose new xbox/pc over Steam Machines.

[–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh we do have a lot of Microsuckers in this world who will choose this over the Steam Machine because “It is well integrated into the system” bullshit.

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago

"XBOX game pass is heaps better than Steam" - said no one ever

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Better integrated than Steam? I'd be curious to hear how.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

With the inability to obtain hardware for new PCs and other computing devices (for reference see how hard it is to get a hold of a steam deck these days). I'm not sure if the steam machine is ever going to come to fruition while the AI boom continues to fuck up the market.

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[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Good, I'm sick of playing lowest common denominator console ports. Develop for PC and let the consoles have the degraded experience, not the other way around!

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Consoles were just weird very restricted PCs for decades now, it's nothing new really. If anything, making it more open will be better, there is no other need to keep it restricted other than making it unupgradable so you have to pay for a new one every generation.
In other ways, good, now do the same with PS.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

EDIT: As @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world has pointed out, that Windows 12 article has been debunked, not just by outside sources, but by PCWorld itself at this point. The article itself has a large disclaimer on it now, and they have a breakdown on how the story got published in the first place:

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3079754/we-messed-up-with-the-windows-12-article-what-we-got-wrong-and-how-it-happened.html


Original Comment:

This actually tracks completely with the news about an incoming Windows 12 announcement and in particular the claim about Windows 12 being modular. The description has claimed that it will make certain aspects of Windows able to be added or removed at will. Meaning options like a "minimal" desktop installation that has very few options, no PowerShell, no Terminal, no access to a majority of common Windows features, and very little control of the OS other than changing the desktop background.

In other words, this new "Project Helix" or whatever will be a stripped-down version of Windows 12 with everything non-gaming-related removed, including access to half the system settings I'm sure.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Windows central is reporting that the windows 12 rumor is bs. I think they went so far as to call it an AI slop fabricated story.

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[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I do not trust that Microsoft will be doing anything other than pushing subscription-based streaming. Call me when they have a robust storefront selling games on par with Steam and hardware that allows you to play these games on or offline. Until then, imma press X to doubt.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is just the needle pushing more towards subscription models for all the things.

In a few years you won't own games or game systems, you will have a controller to the side of your monitor and all your PC functions will be outsourced to a microsoft server and your games will be streamed to you according to whatever subscription tier you're on.

If you all want to stop this, STOP BUYING NEW GAMES. Just put the stupid fucking companies out of business, we can "acquire" plenty of PC games for our PC's and there are vast numbers of used games out there, alongside whatever is kicking around in our steam libraries that we didn't have the attention span to even try. Let's go on a spending diet and enjoy the lives we have for a little while until the oligarchs all starve.

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[–] mthomson@forum.macaque.social 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

that's stupid. If I wanted a PC I'd have bought a PC.

[–] treesapx@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah, but now you can buy a PC and pay an xbox subscription. Isn't this exciting, everybody?

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[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

At the same time, I've seen people use their Steam Deck as a server.

[–] this@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

How much you wanna bet it'll just be a pc you can't uninstall windows from?

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Saying this is the death of the platform is stupid. Worst case, it's at least better than current Xbox, which doesn't have the option to play PC games. Yeah, it's going to have all of M$'s spywhere and AI slop, but so would any MS device. I'm not buying this crap, but if you already wanted an Xbox then this is an improvement. Yeah, you're better off with a PC, especially one running Linux. This has been the case for decades, yet the consoles still sell.

[–] 64bithero@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Death of the “platform” as in dedicated hardware designed purely to play games.

Going forward “Xbox” games will just be Windows games.

So yes by my definition, it’s dead as dead as Elvis …

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