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New Xbox & AI CEO announced via Twitter ( not calling it x) the new “hybrid” console that will play Xbox and PC games.

In other words you know just a PC. Thus far it seems the system will use the exact same Xbox desktop experience as the “rog ally”.

While we all saw it coming and there isn’t much surprise. This to me says Xbox is dead as a platform.

It’s going to be expensive, it’s going to have Windows. It’s going to have co-pilot it’s going to have the same pop ups.

At least we get an Ally ROG desktop at most a Surface Gaming Desktop. Either honestly is a terrible idea. There will be most affordable options not tied to windows there will be mode powerful options at the same price. Even if you like the idea of going all in PC gaming this won’t be your best option.

If you want to stay a console gamer you’re going to have to switch teams …

RIP Xbox.

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[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 4 points 13 minutes ago (1 children)

If I'm going to buy a PC type console, it'll be the steam machine. No idea why anyone would go for something that has windows on it at this point. I guess some will buy it because it has the Xbox name but the value of that is waning.

[–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 1 points 1 minute ago

Maybe the online features of Xbox like multiplayer and such are going to be a factor in people wanting to stay. Network effect ...

[–] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 2 points 33 minutes ago

Will they call it Xbox copilot? I can not and will not own any device that runs on software from Microsoft. Never again.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Consoles were just weird very restricted PCs for decades now, it's nothing new really. If anything, making it more open will be better, there is no other need to keep it restricted other than making it unupgradable so you have to pay for a new one every generation.
In other ways, good, now do the same with PS.

[–] 64bithero@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Let’s agree to disagree then.

It’s not a like for like experience no matter how you slice it.

I know this is going out to an audience who regularly self hosts and runs Linux.

But not everyone has the same technical skill level and the experiences are not ideal for everyone.

[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 3 points 42 minutes ago

Consoles are literally just computers. Install game -> play game. There's no magic "technical skill" required to do the same thing on a less locked down computer instead.

[–] desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 30 minutes ago

I think the steamdeck is the closest to a console-like experience, but yeah consoles have been PCs for a long time they just make it very simple to install/load games because it is a closed platform where they control every aspect of distribution

I understand the frustration with Xbox slowly dying, but this is all microslop's fault.

[–] this@sh.itjust.works 2 points 35 minutes ago

How much you wanna bet it'll just be a pc you can't uninstall windows from?

[–] TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

It just sounds like a Steam Box that also steals your data.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 hours ago

And then feeds it into the actual orphan crushing machine

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org -5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

...and likely has better compatibility with more Windows games, which are most games.

Microsoft has the existing expertise and access to source to build a very effective and basically seamless compatibility layer, akin to how 32-bit apps run on x64 windows using WoW64 (Windows on Windows 64). I guess the real question is if it will be running real windows with an Xbox compatibility layer or a version of the Xbox modified windows with a regular windows compatibility layer.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Proton consistently shows better performance results than running the same game natively on Windows. Despite having a bunch of experience, Microsoft consistently shows that there is always a way to make a thing worse.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This is just the needle pushing more towards subscription models for all the things.

In a few years you won't own games or game systems, you will have a controller to the side of your monitor and all your PC functions will be outsourced to a microsoft server and your games will be streamed to you according to whatever subscription tier you're on.

If you all want to stop this, STOP BUYING NEW GAMES. Just put the stupid fucking companies out of business, we can "acquire" plenty of PC games for our PC's and there are vast numbers of used games out there, alongside whatever is kicking around in our steam libraries that we didn't have the attention span to even try. Let's go on a spending diet and enjoy the lives we have for a little while until the oligarchs all starve.

[–] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 1 points 20 minutes ago (1 children)

Bold of you to assume the oligarchs will starve when they can always print money out of thin air while the rest of us pay for it in inflation.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago* (last edited 16 minutes ago)

Well, to be more correct, if they see a venture or tactic of theirs isn't paying off as their delusional AI's told them it would, we can at least get them to scrap that direction and try something else. We'll never actually "stop" them, but we can use the thing we have, that they want, to at least direct them away from the places that they are causing harm to things we want to preserve.

I am under no expectation of this happening at all, we have hundreds of millions of families who will throw whatever new, shiny, mainstream tech-toys and "blockbuster" releases at their kids as a babysitter, those are the breadbasket of the tech and entertainment companies.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Dumb marketing speak aside, the general thrust of just turning Xbox into a brand for Microsoft games Studios to release games on Windows and maybe other platforms one day doesn't seem like all that bad of an idea to me.

I want more easy access to more open and flexible platforms in my everyday life, not less. If the traditional console has to go away for us to get the proliferation of "PC games" as the default in ways the average person can easily use that seems like a win for the gaming market overall.

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[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

My SeXbox Series SeX has sat in the corner, unplugged, since a few months after the OG Legion Go came out. At first, it was because I preferred the experience on my LeGo. But that's now turned into me not wanting to receive updates, in case someone finally figures out how to install Linux on the thing and that it requires an older firmware.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 1 points 58 minutes ago (1 children)

All xbox series s and x consoles are made to die. Microsoft put the hardware key in a 1 gb partition on the SSD that is encrypted and in XFBS format nothing can read. All those consoles will be trash in less than 10 years. So until we get the full schematics and a microsoft ex employee to tell us how to get around the partition, they are all going to break and be unrepairable.

[–] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 1 points 30 minutes ago

...XFBS format nothing can read... for now. At the rate Microsoft recycles their staff, we will have some of them out in the wild one day with the full work around to reformat this abomination.

[–] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

Watch it not even be able to play native 360 titles due to the architecture. Gears of War 2 and 3 will be locked to consoles forever if that happens.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 1 points 57 minutes ago

Reminds me of all the posts that say "but can it run crysis?"

Some games are just really difficult to emulate without original hardware.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Xbox 360 emulation is getting better, so it would be playable on pc.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The Xbone and Xbox SeX can play 360 games just fine, and they are essentially PCs running modified Windows.

[–] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Right, but you cannot play those two games on PC. So if the new console PC hybrid uses Windows, I don't forsee those games running. I may be missing something though.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 1 points 9 minutes ago

The newer Xboxes already run Windows. MS could distribute their 360 emulator on regular Windows.

[–] 64bithero@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I wouldn’t worry to much about that. Microsoft can build out additional emulation to support those games. Now how much of they can pull from what’s been done with Xbox One / Series that remains unclear.

They can always “borrow” from the foss community and just use their emulators.

I wouldn’t expect the same upgrades you saw with the old back compat catalogue. But hopefully it’s as functional as it was on its OG hardware.

But whatever they do I know the community will be able to improve upon for the whole PC space to utilize without needing to pay Shitsoft for it …

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Don't be silly, they'll be happy to make a vibe coded remaster for it and charge $80 a piece.

[–] Nugscree@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

$119 a piece, don't forget about those poor shareholders.

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 32 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I'm confused by the pessimistic reactions, though.

Companies converging towards the semi-open platform is a good thing. The locked down hardware and exclusives are not something we as customers asked for. It was something the cartel just shoved down our throats.

What bothers me is the backwards compatibility that microsoft has always just hand-waved in regards to the sunsetting of the xbox HW. A clear yes or no would be nice.

[–] sleepmode@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

In emulation and retro gaming forums I frequent the reactions seem mostly positive. Lots of questions surrounding backwards compatibility of course.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 hours ago

Oh God I know this will go over many people's heads but I was listening to a podcast where they where talking about the renewal of CUSMA (or USMCA for you Americans) and a senator said "I'm half included to think Donald Trump is ready to make a decision" to which Rob Russo, a journalist, rightly pointed out that was not clarity it is infact the absence of clarity. He then said, and this is why I laugh and the yes/no comment is so true.

"If I told my wife 'Im half inclined to take the garbage out today' she would not say that is a clear answer as to if I was going to do it"

Political and Business language needs to fuck off.

[–] 64bithero@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Microsoft was already releasing games on PC. All this does is removes any dedicated hardware. Officially forcing windows down Xbox gamers throats. One less option in the space not really one more.

Windows is not the future for gaming. Windows shouldn’t be anyone’s future

[–] ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

You realize PC is not just Windows, right? It's Windows, Linux, Mac.

Windows might be the most used PC platform but game developer are well aware attaching their success to Windows is not the right move. And that's exactly the kind of freedom PC gives that consoles do not.

[–] 64bithero@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I’m not sure if you understand the point of my post. Yes PC is not just Windows. But the whole point of this product will be the “Xbox experience” which is installed on WINDOWS. Sure you can buy this box and then just install Bazzite or whatever. But why wait for this “box” to do it ? Just build a custom PC which is guaranteed to be better value and something you can do right now ?

I’m not attacking PC gaming. I love PC gaming. But this is in the context of an dedicated gaming console. Which for Xbox is going away.

My point is I see little value in the move. My point is I believe it’s the wrong approach. Valves approach with their baked in software is much better.

[–] ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I mean, your post says "Forcing windows down Xbox gamers throats". So people that are already in the locked down Xbox ecosystem, not people that already know that and avoid Xbox. Xbox is just Windows but locked down. It's both Microsoft.

I completely agree people should just go for a PC, but if someone was buying Xbox already, they aren't in the mindset. So if they're going to buy Xbox anyways, having a device that's not locked down to some console OS means they can switch at any time and rid themselves of Xbox, since it's your device. To me that's definitely an improvement over the status quo, even if other better options were already available.

[–] Nugscree@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

But think of the AI agents that need to work on it!!!

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