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Xbox as a platform is officially dead (lemmy.world)
submitted 14 hours ago by 64bithero@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world
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New Xbox & AI CEO announced via Twitter ( not calling it x) the new “hybrid” console that will play Xbox and PC games.

In other words you know just a PC. Thus far it seems the system will use the exact same Xbox desktop experience as the “rog ally”.

While we all saw it coming and there isn’t much surprise. This to me says Xbox is dead as a platform.

It’s going to be expensive, it’s going to have Windows. It’s going to have co-pilot it’s going to have the same pop ups.

At least we get an Ally ROG desktop at most a Surface Gaming Desktop. Either honestly is a terrible idea. There will be most affordable options not tied to windows there will be mode powerful options at the same price. Even if you like the idea of going all in PC gaming this won’t be your best option.

If you want to stay a console gamer you’re going to have to switch teams …

RIP Xbox.

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[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

i think this is a bit over dramatic. seems more the next logical step in the "console" world

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

And this is why Sony pulled games from PC. The Steam Machine was just another reason. PCs in general are now consoles too, and Sony is afraid their traditional console loses meaning.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Consoles meant something back when commodity PC hardware was not good at playing games - at least not for a consumer-accessible price.

The specialized rendering processors of the NES and SNES and Sega Genesis could push pixels without all the distractions a CPU has, in away they were the first GPUs (although modern GPUs do a much more generalized job).

You don’t need that anymore though, a PC can do it all. You don’t even need to be on a specific OS anymore for most games.

Form factor or other novel hardware is going to be the only thing anyone can do; I think this is why Nintendo didn’t bother to make a behemoth console and try to compete with PS5

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

EDIT: As @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world has pointed out, that Windows 12 article has been debunked, not just by outside sources, but by PCWorld itself at this point. The article itself has a large disclaimer on it now, and they have a breakdown on how the story got published in the first place:

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3079754/we-messed-up-with-the-windows-12-article-what-we-got-wrong-and-how-it-happened.html

Original Comment:

This actually tracks completely with the news about an incoming Windows 12 announcement and in particular the claim about Windows 12 being modular. The description has claimed that it will make certain aspects of Windows able to be added or removed at will. Meaning options like a "minimal" desktop installation that has very few options, no PowerShell, no Terminal, no access to a majority of common Windows features, and very little control of the OS other than changing the desktop background.

In other words, this new "Project Helix" or whatever will be a stripped-down version of Windows 12 with everything non-gaming-related removed, including access to half the system settings I'm sure.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Windows central is reporting that the windows 12 rumor is bs. I think they went so far as to call it an AI slop fabricated story.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

AI slop

They definitely didn't use that terminology though, with how hard they're pushing back against the "Microslop" term. Thanks for the update, however.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Windows Central? They’re not affiliated with MS, unless they also don’t like the nickname.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3079754/we-messed-up-with-the-windows-12-article-what-we-got-wrong-and-how-it-happened.html

More importantly, it looks like PCWorld is retracting the article and has issued a post mortem on how it got published.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

This is reminding me of how Ars Technica recently metaphorically stepped in it in regards to AI BS in a story less than a month ago. What an information nightmare we’re wading into

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[–] 64bithero@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Microsoft has no interest in scaling back windows especially for the sake of user experience. The want Ai in your face they want ads for you to upgrade to office 365.

So while they could do all of this even with a modified version of Windows 11 , they won’t.

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 7 hours ago

I didn't get one and my kids didn't get one. Microslop!

[–] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds great honestly, locked down console hardware is such an aging concept. If Valve manages to pull off the Steam Machines, it's proof that we've past the age of consoles. Except Nintendo I guess, they've always been a special case somehow.

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[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If you want to stay a console gamer you’re going to have to switch teams …

I thought that said switch TO Teams, for a moment, lol

[–] 64bithero@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

That sadly maybe a requirement. Let’s hope not haha

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Good riddance. All consoles are cancer, by their walled-garden nature.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The thing that bothers me about switch to "it's just a branded PC now" is the loss of the Xbox as a low-end performance target.

That's one advantage of being a console gamer: Your games may never look the best, but new AAA games will come out and run acceptably well on your system, long after low-spec PCs are left for dead by publishers.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 8 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

When the Steam Machine appears, it may take over that role.

[–] Airfried@piefed.social 3 points 11 hours ago

Also the Steam Deck can already take over that role if the Steam Machine is too much of an ask for you. When they're restocked, that is.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 2 points 10 hours ago

Here's hoping 🤞

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

The PC cannot currently play non-ported Xbox games at this time, though. I get why you’re saying “just a PC” but that’s a distinction worth noting. I hope the PC platform in general will gain the ability to play all Xbox games and not just Xbox branded hardware. I also hope PCs gain the ability to use some of the features that are nice about Xbox (mainly Quick Resume).

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Could be that they add that functionality into Windows. There's nothing special about newer games that run on Xbox, they're all x86 applications. Microsoft could just release the Xbox middleware as its own app and allow Xbox games to work on whatever PC it's installed on, which is basically all that an Xbox is right now.

For older games (360 and OG Xbox), just do the same thing with the emulator that they currently run through.

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[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

I never upgraded from the Xbox One X and haven’t once felt like I’ve missed anything this entire generation.

My next console will be either a steam deck or just a living room PC running Linux.

It’s not in the budget right now though, so it depends what’s available when I decide to pull the trigger

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[–] CMLVI@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

If I can get my Xbox game library and saved progress onto the PC, great. Sucks I've double bought some titles but whatever I guess.

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

The writing was on the wall a long time ago when they were making cuts and seeking partnerships with Sony to stay afloat.

[–] deus@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

If you want to stay a console gamer you're going to have to switch teams ...

Heh

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