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A judge ruled yesterday that Krafton improperly fired Gill in 2025, and ordered that he be restored as CEO of Unknown Worlds.

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[–] Guitar@lemmy.world 63 points 6 hours ago

If you want to help fuck over Krafton and support the devs, buy the game. The judge extended the deadline for Unknown Worlds to earn the $250 million payout until late September. That payout was the whole reason Krafton put together this scheme in the first place. You will actually hurt Krafton more if they have to pay out that $250 million versus not buying the game at all. Not to mention, UW does good work and absolutely deserves it.

[–] HeartyOfGlass@piefed.social 65 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Soooooo by purchasing a copy of Subnautica 2 we could make a big, shitty company shell out $250 mil to the developers?

Not interested in the game, but I do like the sound of that.

[–] TRBoom@lemmy.zip 25 points 6 hours ago

That's my read as well. I really liked the first one and if I can make this dick feel like he lost at the same time...

[–] LordMayor@piefed.social 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Huh. I wasn’t going to buy it at all. Now, I’m not sure. Damn.

[–] HeartyOfGlass@piefed.social 15 points 6 hours ago

I'm torn because it would still put money in that shitty company's pocket.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 28 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

They not sacking the Krafton CEO who used ChatGPT to strategise how to cheat the devs out of their money, overruled his legal team and has embarrassed the company?

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 15 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

All PR is good PR I guess. He did successfully promote Subnautica 2, judging by the reactions in this thread. Without this scandal I would have never known a sequel was on the way.

[–] albbi@piefed.ca 4 points 1 hour ago

One of the top lemmy posts of all time is a warning not to buy Subnautica 2.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 points 4 hours ago

Without this scandal I would have never known a sequel was on the way.

Makes me wonder if this might actually all just be kayfabe to drum up free publicity...

[–] jaennaet@sopuli.xyz 32 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

"We look forward to working with Ted Gill", sure you fucking do. Do those people take us for absolute idiots? Everybody knows they'll just try to fuck Unknown Worlds over at the first chance they get.

Love Subnautica but I'm not giving Krafton a single cent.

[–] Guitar@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You'd hurt Krafton more if Unkown World earns enough revenue to trigger the $250 million payout. Obviously a single word from Krafton can't be trusted, but that's all the more reason to hit them with this. I'm all for not giving money to a shitty company. But the payout was the whole reason they tried to pull this hostile takeover shit in the first place. If Krafton doesn't end up having to pay that money to UW, then it's a victory for them. If you really want Krafton to be punished, buy the game and make them pay, literally. If UW has all that money at the end of this, it will put them in a stronger position to not get pushed around by Krafton. Ultimately, Krafton put itself in this position because they made a deal they regretted, and tried to weasel out of it. Don't let them succeed if you hate them and love Subnautica.

[–] jaennaet@sopuli.xyz 12 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

How much would $250 million really hurt Krafton in comparison to the money they'd make?

In any case, I won't be giving money to Krafton because that'd mean endorsing this bullshit: https://www.pocketgamer.biz/krafton-signs-strategic-alliance-with-hanwha-aerospace-to-develop-real-world-ai-systems/

[–] Guitar@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

Enough that they were willing to risk doing this to their reputation against the advice of lawyers. So I'd say pretty damn bad. But if you decide it's not where you wanna put your money, that's fair too.

[–] protist@retrofed.com 3 points 2 hours ago

Their 2024 gross revenue was about $1.9 billion, so $250 million would be over 13% of their total annual revenue

[–] Theatomictruth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 hours ago

Krafton a single

Krafton signals

People gotta be doing this on purpose

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Dude this publisher is totally dogshit. I'm torn between paying for it to support the dev or not.

[–] AcesFullOfKings@feddit.uk -3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

I don't understand all these comments where people are trying to decide whether to "support the developer" or "screw a huge company". Like, they do not care one bit about a single sale. It makes no difference.

Here's my thought process: I loved subnautica 1. Below Zero was decent. I'd like to play the next one, therefore I will buy it. I give zero shit about the politics and lawsuits involved. I like the game so I'll buy it. Any further mental gymnastics is just pointlessly torturing yourself.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 10 points 4 hours ago

I’d like to play the next one, therefore I will buy it.

There be other options, matey.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 6 hours ago

Ah no, buddy, you misunderstand me. I'm gonna play this game, my experience on the previous ones parallels yours closely. I'm deciding if I'm gonna pay for it or not.

[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Sometimes I'm just doing stuff for chaos's sake. Ill buy the game just to cause trouble. I guess we just find entertainment value in different things, cause I have a great time with this kind of drama

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

And what happens to the denier of reality? That dude should be in jail.

[–] peacefulpixel@lemmy.world -4 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

i still remember this game having AI Generated assets. that's not exactly something i can look past. how ironic that the devs were taking an environmentalists angle for the first game, now we're here

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 hours ago

Ofc its a company with "AI first" philosophy

[–] Guitar@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If there are any AI generated assets, and I don't believe there are, they certainly aren't anything substantial. The devs have been showing off their work for months. At a minimum, the creatures, vehicles, bases, and writing is all created by humans. I know Krafton claimed a few months ago they were gonna start putting AI assets in their games, but from everything I've seen of Subnautica 2, it does not have AI generated assets. If you have a source that says otherwise, I'd be interested to see it.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social -3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

IMO, ai-generated assets are not a deal-breaker, especially if it's done in moderation. For example, using AI to generate the texture for a human-made 3D model.

If major portions of the game are AI-generated, that's going to be terrible. But if they're just using it as a shortcut to fill in some of the minor details, that's probably fine.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

So you're okay with AI taking texture maker's jobs but not 3D modeller's?

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I don't give a shit about anybody's job. I'm just talking about what AI might or might not be able to do a decent job of and not ruin the product.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Oh you’ll care if it comes after your job.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 5 points 4 hours ago

It already has.

Full nihilist mode here, bruh.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Success corrupts I suppose. Or is it another of those games with a completely different team doing the sequal?

[–] peacefulpixel@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

from what i recall which may be wrong, the only people of the original subnautica team that were fired were the original 3 founders of the team. the rest of the team is in tact i believe