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https://lemmy.world/post/38269946
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I'm a huge fan of Dan Abnett's warhammer books. The Ravenor trilogy is my favourite, I just wish there were more!
Once you read the first page, the OCD kicks in, and you can't quit. All you can do is be glad you didn't open the phone book.
As someone who is all about the 40k lore, have no clue how to play the game, don't have any miniatures, you really gotta take it all in small doses as there's so much of it or let someone on youtube explain it for you.
It's good lore, it's insanely deep lore, and it's all over the place. Keep in mind it all takes place of the span of 10s of thousands of years. there will be entire novels of the most mundane Astartes chapter/legion. There'll be legions/chapters you have no clue about because no one has written about them or they get shoved off to the side. I know a lot of the lore but I honestly couldn't tell you anything about the twin Primarchs Alpharius and Omegon nor their Alpha Legion.
I played a small bit in the late 90s, it was fun chilling with my roommate and painting miniatures. Think I spent more time painting than playing though. They never lookrd great but was space marines in red with yellow accents, the odd things you still remember a 1/4 decade later.
Funny thing is, I'm pretty sure there are way more books they missed.
This is just the Horus Heresy, there are WAY more books
42 in the image, 65 in the series. I think the whole of the 30k/40k universe is up to more than 300 books now though, it's insane.
60+? 70? I don't even remember
Oh neat, I bought them all one night and only have about 25 left to go so they should be fun
This hits home for me… Once I start a series I have to finish it. Sometimes it’s VERRY long to finish the more boring ones…
I'm the opposite. Life is too short for bad books. If I'm not into a book within the first few chapters, I drop it.
I was getting into Warhammer 40k lore on YouTube and tried the first Horus Heresy book. I noped right out of there. I read the Sun Eater series instead, and I'm so glad I did.
Stephen King's "Gunslinger". Can't do it.
Same, stopped at the end of book two. Just felt empty to me
Uggh, yeah, I read em just to be sure that I don't enjoy his writing, and sure enough it was not worth it.
That’s a strength a wish I had :) Kudos to you
Accurate, although there are exceptions. Betrayer + First Heretic come to mind, those were fun.
Flight of the Eisenstein is pretty good too. But... none of the HH books have ever really grabbed me. 40k has some truly good pieces of science fiction (The Infinite and The Divine (probably the best warhammer book, I don't even think that's a contentious claim), Ruin/Reign, Flesh & Steel, Assassinorum: Kingmaker), but I was always kinda underwhelmed by the 30k stuff... idk what it was. Maybe the inevitability of the setting?
I only started reading Horus Heresy because the first novel is by Abnett. Took me until like the 15th to realise the rest of them suck.
Yeah, I really respect what a literary undertaking it was but... jesus christ, when the recommended reading order has to come in the form of charts like this maybe you should prune down the number of entries in the series guys.
This image keeps crashing my phone's browser from the sheer size, which just makes your point even funnier.
Dont forget all the fun Ork/Red Gobbo books. Mike Brooks is a treasure. Definitely agree on Infinite and Divine too.
But yeah a lot of HH is pretty meh even if youre into it.
Oh jeeze yeah, Brutal Kunnin' was so much fun. I still have yet to pick up most of the other Ork ones, I remember Prophet of the WAAAAGH! being another one that's just a genuinely good piece of sci-fi. Still have yet to read the Red Gobbo books, really need to get around to that one of these days. Savoring the good fiction, I suppose...
You won't know it, until you read (or played it). Also opinions can change after time. Especially if the last episode and ending was a slog, it can change the view of the entire franchise for some. If you read fast enough (or watch), then your brain does not have enough time to process everything and does not build relationship with early stuff, but with the last stuff. What I mean is, if you watched Star Wars in the 80s, then you had plenty of time to be fan and reject the new Disney films. But if you watched all films back to back from beginning to last Disney film for the first time, then you maybe hating it.
I picked up a used copy of Horus Rising that I’ve been reading off and on. It’s the first warhammer book I’ve read (I don’t play the game), but I’ve played some of rogue trader and read several memes about the emperor on his throne, so it’s all making me anticipate a twist that I’m not sure will happen.
The first five or six books of The Horus Heresy are fantastic IMO. After that it's a lot of hit and miss titles, and a load of short stories which also vary in quality.
I may be skewed because I've been into warhammer for more two thirds of my life though.
As I understand it the original plan was to cover the Heresy over like 10 books or something like that but then it just kept ballooning. This resulted in issues like Fulgrim falling to chaos really fucken fast and for stupid reasons only for him to more or less jack off for the rest of the Heresy which while fitting for a Slaaneshi champion is still kinda disappointing.
Just like in the practice cages
For anyone who likes Warhammer, check out Stephen Baxter, Xeelee series
I felt like that after watching all 10 series of Benidorm
Granted, covid was a big part, but there are more than 30 seasons of NCIS across all the series and I’ve seen every damn one of them. Are they good? No
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