The problem is it's still cheaper for me to fuel my car up with exploding dinosaurs than it is to buy an EV.
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Today my work friend, who was totally against EV’s said he should have been bought EV, because gas prices are so high now.
Whomp whomp.
OK, I was having this discussion with the wife. What's a good used EV in North America, 5-10 years old. Preferably without a bunch of electronic shit and definitely not a Tesla?
Chevy Bolt
Cheap, reliable, not the ugliest EV in the world. They're under appreciated right now so a fully loaded model with low miles goes for about $10K.
I'm thinking about upgrading my bicycle
I remember the last time gas prices went through the roof.
I was riding my bike with my wife, going to the goshery store. A guy yelled out of his truck. I was like here we go....(im used to harassment on bikes). He said "Yeah! Stick it to em!"
We were just poor at the time, but it made our day haha.
This was my experience this morning. I ride a trike with a big fucking basket in back so i haul a lot of shit around town. It's mostly pickup dudes who love my trike anyways i've discovered, but when i'm hauling shit (like 150 pounds of cat food) they really love it. I get "how much gas are you saving on that" "all of it, it gets me to the next town and back" a lot and it's a real fun conversation.
Nice, those are the fun ones.
I wish people were kinder at times.
What piece of shit harassed you for riding a bike?
Edit: I am deeply saddened by the current state of things.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do-gooder_derogation
Some people are very fragile and have poor emotional regulation. When they see other people doing good, it makes them feel bad, so they lash out.
Environmentalism, biking, veganism, all commonly evoke this behavior.
In my local city, people die every year getting ran over on a bike. I knew a dr who didnt make it.
I got close-lined off my bike once around 2017. Its part of the gang initiation to send someone to the hospital. I have a dent in my nose because of it.
Its MUCH more dangerous in my area than most places though.
Maga land folks get very angry if you're even driving a small car. Been screamed at and almost ran off the road just for existing in a small car. It offends their tiny pp. Or something.
They REALLY hate bikes. Maybe because while they drive their 8000 lb dually quad cab thats never touched dirt or towed once, and hauls 1 person 99% of the time, they get mad at how efficient you are.
And I have a truck too. For work. 8 ft box single cab manual with no radio or ac. Hauls construction material and tows trailers. A truck used for real work. Fuck bro trucks.
Yup... drove a small car back from college and two truck bros decided it'd be fun to sandwich my car between them. One rode my rear bumper with high beams, the other slowed down and rode the middle line so I couldn't pass. Then he'd start slamming his brakes.
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One of my roommates in college had me drive him to buy a bike off of Craigslist so he could get around, he rode it home, and then never touched it again because he got a bunch of drive-by harassment/name-calling, it was really sad.
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The timing is unfortunate... I'd like to buy a used EV, and I've seen a few I like on carvana with very low miles for cheap... but I've been living in an apartment and would have no place to change it... Now I'm buying a house with (among many other things) a 240v outlet in the garage specifically for changing an EV... But it's going to be a couple weeks, and those used EVs are dwindling...
You can get by on public fast chargers for the interim. 120V is also more viable than I expected. I was all ready to install a 240 line for a charger when we bought our EV but a year later we haven’t actually needed to yet. No long commute in our household, so 🤷♂️BTW we did exactly what you described: bought a very low-miles used Bolt on Carvana.
Take the plunge if you want to.
Had a Nissan Leaf few years. Never needed a 240v. On the standard 120v charger it gained about 5 miles every hour it was plugged in. Most every day it was in my driveway for 12+ hours so even when it was super close to dead, after dinner and sleeping it’d be up to 60ish miles of charge. My commute was 22 miles round trip, so it was almost always fully charged in the AM, and I was able (but it was a pita to run the cable) to charge it at my office on 120v as well in case it was ever a real problem.
The high gas prices may have added fuel to the fire, but the best news here is that used EVs are growing in popularity. That is a consequence of us finding out batteries don't degrade as fast as we first imagined, which makes used EVs a lot more interesting.
In the short term, that kills the market for new EVs, since used ones were so dirt cheap. In the long run, the resale value of new EVs will be much more stable, eliminating the last downside they had.
(Obviously, many car makers saw the short term pain and gave up on the entire market. That is of course because car maker CEOs are absolutely brilliant people with foresight and strategic thinking. Just kidding: they occupy the only category of jobs that should absolutely be replaced by AI.)
I hope more people try it because hot damn, I love having an EV. We got a gently used Bolt last year and it’s exceeded my expectations in every way. It’s quick and QUIET inside and so far we haven’t had the need to go beyond a regular old wall socket 120V charger (we mostly just drive in-town). But wow I love driving it and never stopping to gas it or even change the oil. It’s such a simple and satisfying experience.
There really was a huge increase in the number of EV models available between model years 2018 and 2023.
So now, when you're looking to buy a 3-year-old car, you have so many more EV options to choose from even compared to just 2 years ago.
You can choose different form factors (small cars, sedans, wagon/crossover/small SUVs, medium SUVs, literal pickup trucks), and basically any price tier from economy to ultra luxury high end.
Not every ecological niche was filled in the past 5 years, and some still need a bit more competition, but even with some pullback over the last year there are still plenty of new EVs hitting new categories (e.g., true three-row SUVs and minivans) that will feed into tomorrow's used market.
And not every model will survive. The future of all-electric full size pickups looks pretty grim. Some entire companies might not survive the EV transition (looking at you, Honda). But overall, the used market will fill out with what was hitting the new market 5-10 years ago, and we'll start to see a lot of consumer preferences start showing what the future of cars will look like.
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Trump may be the best thing to happen to energy since we discovered fusion.
unfortunately he's decimating green energy in pretty much every other area. especially wind.
In the US
FTFY. The long term outcome for this is that the world stops revolving around the US. For better or for worse
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For everything the Trump administration has done to make solar and wind power less economically feasible, it turns out his war in Iran has done way more to make fossil fuel consumption less economically feasible as well.
Exactly!
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Who are these people that just go out and buy a car because gas prices went up? Does going into debt and paying interest on a loan make sense just to save a few bucks on gas?
They are probably people that were already looking or anbout to start looking for a new car and pivoted to EV based on current conditions.
Doesn't take much research to conclude the used EV market values are driven by ignorance and are a bargain right now.
A 3 year old Ioniq5 is less than half the price of new, $28,000 go poof. Buying new EVs at >$50,000 makes no sense , but buying slightly used EVs at $12K-$24K makes total sense.
3yo cars are pretty much always less than half. ICE or EV
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Car are always being bought and sold. Some people jump from car to car every few years; I’ve known people who always lease precisely because they trade what they have every year or two for something new.
I’ve been an EV driver for the last few years; my brother called today to tell me he had just bought a used Bolt for his wife. As things happened one of his grown children had their car completely fail on them this week, and so he and his wife decided to buy themselves a new car so they could sell the old one for cheap to their child. With gas prices as they are they found a gently used Bolt EUV. They pick it up this weekend.
So in their case they didn’t go out and buy a car just because gas prices were up — but the decision between gas and EV was triggered by the price of gasoline.
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new ones in the US are overpriced. its probably everything but TESLAS.
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