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Framework announced the Framework 13 Pro with full Linux compatibility from the Start (frame.work)
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Framework announced the Framework 13 Pro including full Linux support right from the beginning.

Some quick information about the Device:

  • will use Intel Core Ultra 300 (Panther-Lake)
  • updated Battery Design with (up to) 20h Battery life
  • custom designed Display Panel with Touch support (keeping the 3:2 aspect ratio)
  • LPCAMM2 for upgradable/replacable RAM without compromising on Speed/Low Power of LPDDR5X
  • milled Aluminium Unibody chassis
  • Full Linux support right from the start (including Firmware update via LVFS, Fingerprint Reader, etc.)
  • Haptic Touchpad
  • and all the repairability features Framework is known for

You can watch their YouTube Video for a quick summary:

I was looking for a new laptop to replace my old Lenovo Yoga 370 and initially disregarded the Framework 13 because of some downsides (low Battery Life, bad Camera, etc.) and was looking to go with one of the following devices:

  • HP Elitebook X g1a
  • the new Dell XPS 14
  • Asus Expertbook PM5 G2

or also a MacBook pro. I am using Linux since more then 10 years and never touched MacOS at all. So I was not sure if MacOS would work for me. But this announcement made it easy: It will be a Framework 13 Pro with Intel X7 358H!

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[–] dis_da_mor@anarchist.nexus 27 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

this looks cool, but i have a note for those willing to stop using their working but more proprietary devices to get this instead.

while this is more repairable and upgradable than most currently popular laptops, you shouldn't upgrade if you don't need to. if your device works, and you can live with the missed performance and other features, don't condemn it to the e-waste bin, where it will most likely not be efficiently disposed of nor recycled, and add to the at least 62 million tonnes of yearly e-waste that is also processed by socially vulnerable people (including children) in economically disadvantaged nations.

if you don't have to waste it, don't. reduce.

[–] scott@lem.free.as 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

They could put it on eBay. Win-win?

[–] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 1 points 55 minutes ago

Or donate to NetBSD foundation. NetBSD tends to keep old hardware alive.

[–] dis_da_mor@anarchist.nexus 1 points 1 hour ago

giving it to someone else is good too

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

they still finance fascists btw

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 27 minutes ago* (last edited 26 minutes ago) (1 children)

I'm out of the loop with this.

From the other reply I saw something about funding a guy who is behind omarchy. What has that guy done to be considered a fascist?

After some digging, is it the hyprland guy, and the drama surrounding it?

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

EDIT: You can safely ignore most of what I wrote. Rails World is the DHH Rails conference (I am not a rails person) that they sponsor.

~~I can't figure out if this is true or not.~~

They did sponsor Omarchy, and they do still list on their linux support page that they seed hardware to Omarchy, but on their official list of sponsorships (included in the spoiler/hidden block so as not to spam/monopolize the thread) they do not list Omarchy.

So I don't know what the current situation is, but it does appear they're distancing themselves from it a bit. They last posted on Bluesky about Omarchy 8 months ago (about when the scandals happened).

Actually: in writing this I realized that Hyprland is also problematic, or maybe they're not anymore, but they are listed in their sponsorships. So I don't actually know what that means.

https://frame.work/ca/en/blog/framework-sponsorships

Full List of Sponsorships, Mar 25, 2026

Organization/Event Type Sponsorship amount
Los Altos Hacks IX Monetary + product sponsorship $500
Daydream Hackathon Monetary sponsorship $500
Aeroespacial Association COSMOS at the Rey Juan Carlos University (URJC) Monetary sponsorship 3x units
Open Hardware Summit hosted by Open Source Hardware Association Monetary sponsorship $500
DebConf Monetary sponsorship €2,000
NixCon Product sponsorship 1x unit
KDE Akademy Monetary sponsorship €2,000
Labscon 2025 Product sponsorship 3x units
SemiTO-V (University Team) Monetary sponsorship €500
RISC-V International Product sponsorship 2x units
Nerdearla Monetary sponsorship €800
Linux Fest Northwest Monetary sponsorship + event booth $500
Open Source Summit North America and Open Source Summit Europe hosted by Linux Foundation Monetary sponsorship + event booth $20,000
COSCUP Monetary sponsorship + event booth $6,000
Texas Linux Fest - hosted by Texas Linux Festival (TXLF) Monetary sponsorship + event booth $2,500
Hackaday Supercon Monetary sponsorship + event booth $30,000
Rails World Monetary sponsorship + event booth €24,000
Hack Club Facilitated donation $87,000
Linux Foundation Monetary sponsorship $5,000/year
Hyprland Monetary sponsorship €7,200/year
LVFS Monetary sponsorship $10,000/year
Arch Linux Monetary sponsorship $5,000/year
Debian Monetary sponsorship $5,000/year
CachyOS Monetary sponsorship $3,000/year
Bazzite Monetary sponsorship $3,000/year
NixOS Monetary sponsorship €2592/year
FreeBSD Monetary sponsorship $5,000/year
NetBSD Monetary sponsorship $2,500/year
KDE Monetary sponsorship €10,000/year
[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

wether they still support omarchy or not is kinda irrelevant because rails world (which is in your list) is run by the same guy

[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 4 points 3 hours ago

Why might Framework want to sponsor Rails World? Everything else in that list makes sense to me, as they are software projects that can have a direct effect on a user's experience witn Framework hardware. But Rails World is all about a web development framework, right? That is like, three degrees of separation from Framework hardware. Donating to Rails World sounds to me like just a roundabout way to keep donating to Omarchy without having to say "we are donating to Omarchy".

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Do the organizations run by that guy further fascist goals, or is the issue that they are led by a fascist?

[–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

On this site, they are one and the same. Judging from the website, though, it's just a conference about Ruby on Rails.

[–] Senal@programming.dev 2 points 18 minutes ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago)

You mean to say that people on this site are claiming that individuals with publicly stated agendas and goals might possibly use the fiscal and/or reputational benefits of the organisations they control to aid in the furthering whatever goals/agendas they may have?

Point me in their direction, i shall have words...big ones...like wherewithal ...or extrapolation....prestidigitation...etc.

Clearly these people are buttering their toast with a teaspoon, seems like an incredible leap to me and i bet they couldn't even provide a single example of this happening in the modern day.....illogical plebeians.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I did not know that, updated my comment accordingly.

I'm not in the rails community, so this was news to me.

[–] Yttra@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Is there a better option for a modular laptop with good Linux support?

[–] nixfreak@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 hours ago

Yeah , Lenovo and I think Dell are both coming out with modular laptop. Or get a MNT especially if you’re in E.U. https://shop.mntre.com/

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

to my knowledge no one else really does the upgradeable main board and swappable i/o things… but for repairable and upgradeable linux laptops, I’ve heard good things about tuxedo, slimbook and system76, maybe you could find something good there

then of course there’s always the ol’ reliable Used Thinkpad, which could be better long-term because you’ll certainly find more second-hand pieces for those laptops than for the niche linux manufacturers

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I was wondering about this. Do you have any resources for what they’ve been up to since their vile “big tent” statements?

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 hours ago

the other person who replied to me has a list of organisations/projets framework finances. among those is rails world, which is run by the same guy that does omarchy

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[–] MissesAutumnRains@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 10 hours ago (14 children)

This is really cool, I hope they end up taking off. I wish there was something similar to this in the EU. I'd be very interested in a laptop I can upgrade over time.

[–] sunstoned@lemmus.org 9 points 5 hours ago

I propose a little cultural exchange. I'm sure Framework and Fairphone could stand to do a little cross pollination.

[–] mitram@sopuli.xyz 25 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They are sold in Europe, no need to wait!

[–] MissesAutumnRains@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

I appreciate the heads up, but I'm trying to buy from EU if I can.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Europe doesn't make RAM, or processors or WiFi chips. Why do you want a European dude assemble parts for you?

[–] MissesAutumnRains@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 45 minutes ago

Because I would rather pay a European company over an American company where possible for similarly valued products. By supporting a company here, I am hopefully contributing to an expanding market here.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Framework sells DIY kits so the European dude assembling the laptop could be himself!

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That just means they assemble it, test that it works and disassemble to pack the DIY kit, lol

I remember framework posting that it takes more work to pack the DIY kits.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 hours ago

Huh interesting! I see playing on their website that an equivalent laptop is more expensive in the DIY version, it's just that the starting price includes no RAM, storage, etc.

So the DIY is for people who want to bring their own parts, not for people who want to get all the parts then save money!

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[–] galaxy_nova@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Well, not as powerful as my m5 pro macbook, but incredibly compelling. Should macOS/apple piss me off sufficiently I’m glad to know I have a good option to move to although it seems I’d be missing out on hdr? It’s frustrating that the framework feels like such a me coded device and I love Linux but there’s stuff I use/like about macOS that I can’t quite replicate just yet. I hope framework really does takeoff, would love one of these as my work issued machine instead of shitty dell laptops someday.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 25 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If bribing a fascist president with a literal gold bar, refusing to comply with EU law and then complying maliciously years later, global tax dodging, and anti-competitive behavior isn’t enough to piss you off sufficiently, I’m not sure what will.

When the Motorola Graphene phones are available, I’m dumping my iPhone, which is my last Apple device.

[–] galaxy_nova@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

That’s certainly a fair point and I’m certainly not happy about it but ultimately I need at least one machine around to run some various proprietary software. I’d rather it be macOS than windows. Also given current hardware pricing I didn’t have the capital to grab say this framework and setup all my own cloud stuff just yet. I do self host a lot of stuff on an older mini pc, and I do use Linux on my desktop but I’m not quiiite there yet. I also did try graphene for a couple weeks but ultimately can’t use it yet full time. I’m definitely keeping an eye on the project though

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