In urban environments we don´t need different cars, we need less cars.
this post was submitted on 25 Feb 2024
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Agreed, but even with fewer cars, having the remaining ones be electric is much better. Quieter (at low speeds) and no fumes
Agreed, I have no objections to that.
Why not both?
I in fact agree with both, but imo reducing the number of cars is the top priority.
So there's no point in improving technology then? Shall we just go for highly polluting SUVs, just fewer of them?
That sounds like a strawman argument tbh. I didn't say anything along those lines. I in fact agree that electric cars are better, just like smaller cars are better too but the basic problem, that they are cars, always remains. What improves cities the most is reducing the number of cars and rededicating streets and parking lots to sidewalks, bike paths, gardens and public parks.
Well that's the point I was making with my comment. "We don't need different cars" is just the wrong statement. We need to redesign our cities from the ground up to be planned around people, not cars. But that is going to take a good 50 years, assuming a decent amount of effort goes into it. We don't have 50 years. We need better cars in the meantime, not just to ignore the problem they are until we reach the year-2100 utopia where everyone can travel in bicycles and hoverboards.
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Bullshit. It’s just a lifeline to the auto industry. Fuck cars.
Before cars were common, despite bicycles, trams, and trains all existing for a long time, our cities were filled with horses. Horses have this habit of shitting everywhere, and cars were welcomed because they made the cities cleaner and less disease ridden.
The horses filled a need that other things could not. Cars then filled that need. That needs still exists today, like it or not. It's best we make them as clean as we can.