Ok, bigger instances ban more often. Not surprising, because they have more communities and more users and more trouble. But hang on, dbzer0 isn't a very big instance. What happens if we do a ratio of bans vs number of users?

Ok, so lemmy.ml, dbzer0 and pawb are issue an outsized amount of bans for the number of users they have... But surely the number of communities the instance hosts is going to mean they have to ban more? Bans are used to moderate communities, not just to shield their user-base from the outside. Let's look at the number of bans per community hosted:

Seems like dbzer0 really loves to ban. Even more than the marxists and the furries! What is it about dbzer0 that makes them such prolific banners?

Raw-ish numbers and calculations are in this spreadsheet if anyone wants to make their own charts.

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[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Interesting that you chose ban when your favorite move is to just delete users you don't like from the database on piefed.social and won't show up in this dataset. Of course, you won't see this reply because of that.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Me, scrolling through the comments:

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What happens if we do a ratio of bans vs number of users?

We get a graph that compares two unrelated values?

Unless this data is purely internal instance user bannings, 'Per capita' has no effective meaning. As the pawb.social case shows: it's all one user with multiple communities who regularly bans waves of sockpuppet brigades. Even the people catching strays or otherwise goes to show it has nothing to do with 'the furries'.

Likewise I wager the SJW bans are effectively one community banning essentially one user who periodically spams accounts.

What is it about dbzer0 that makes them such prolific banners?

That whole painfully public fued against db0 over their stance on zionism may have something to do with it. Like the fake neo-nazi shit being spread against db0 that was just going on this week. It's a wild question to have in light of all that, quite frankly.

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ridiculous on its face to say "weird why db0" in light of exactly what you said, fully fabricated images shared to attack the wider perception of the instance.

Along with the rest of the "I'm doing statistics! With crayons" nonsense.

Fuck this post.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (10 children)

Alternative view: Why is dbzer0 the only instance that holds people accountable for their actions? Why are all other instances letting things slide?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

There is one point that the statistics don't grasp: the question whether a ban is used to "hold someone accountable" or because the mod just did not like a certain opinion or person.

The original statements stand. This statistic is solely about the amount of banning, not about the quality.

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[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 86 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (129 children)

What makes you so sure the moderators are the problem, and not users? Maybe assholes gravitate toward certain instances, or people just don't bother to check whether an instance's rules match how tend to they post.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 78 points 5 days ago (12 children)

ml bans anyone who isn't guzzling Putin's ballsack

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 19 points 4 days ago (30 children)

I just had my first reprimand and banning from a community for the first time in the 3 or so years I’ve been on Lemmy.

I don’t regret it.

I had no idea that Lemmy.ml believed the Uhygur genocide was a hoax. I decided to block all of Lemmy.ml as a result.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

believed the Uhygur genocide was a hoax.

Even Wikipedia had to change the name of the "Uyghur Genocide" article because there wasn't enough evidence, lol.

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 4 days ago

dbzer0 literally has a community aimed at calling out power tripping mods, and instance admins regularly comment there to call out power tripping mods.

I've never have been worried by being banned there by just normal posting.

As they have already told you. This does not take into account the amount of harassment that some instances and communities have to endure.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 45 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

its so funny how people complained about blahaj, the trans instance yet they dont ban very high at all, i suspect its alot of transphobic comments being directed towards the instance that are getting people banned.

blahaj is up there likely due to signicant transphobia too.

[–] Salamence@mander.xyz 45 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (12 children)

if you look at the modlog of every "blahaj is an authoritarian instance" user you will find they either keep misgendering people, talked over trans people and refused to be corrected or did things like denouncing neopronouns everytime

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[–] StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wow some of y'all are pissy AF over literal data being shown to you. If you think it's wrong then you have free will, put your money where your mouth is and do it better or stop yapping.

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