I did some analysis of the modlog and found this:
Ok, bigger instances ban more often. Not surprising, because they have more communities and more users and more trouble. But hang on, dbzer0 isn't a very big instance. What happens if we do a ratio of bans vs number of users?
Ok, so lemmy.ml, dbzer0 and pawb are issue an outsized amount of bans for the number of users they have... But surely the number of communities the instance hosts is going to mean they have to ban more? Bans are used to moderate communities, not just to shield their user-base from the outside. Let's look at the number of bans per community hosted:
Seems like dbzer0 really loves to ban. Even more than the marxists and the furries! What is it about dbzer0 that makes them such prolific banners?
Raw-ish numbers and calculations are in this spreadsheet if anyone wants to make their own charts.
I just had my first reprimand and banning from a community for the first time in the 3 or so years I’ve been on Lemmy.
I don’t regret it.
I had no idea that Lemmy.ml believed the Uhygur genocide was a hoax. I decided to block all of Lemmy.ml as a result.
Ha, I think that's what got me banned from there as well. Good riddance.
Because it is. Hence why zero international human rights councils have ever found evidence of genocide.
That’s blatantly false. You have the same critical thinking ability as MAGA.
I heard Saddam had nuclear bombs
Nobody else heard Saddam had nukes..
He did have nerve-gas ( sarin ) bombs, & some troops died when they destroyed those the wrong way..
Nerve-gas is in the category of weapons of mass-destruction..
Back when that war was happening, Radio Netherlands ( shortwave ) interviewed a weapons-inspector who'd been in Iraq, & they stated, openly, that there was no evidence for Iraq having any weapons of mass-destruction.
( the sarin stuff was discovered later, iirc )
It was all lie-of-convenience, but on ALL sides.
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Not believing the Chinese government’s claims about Uhygurs does not mean you also believe US propaganda either.
Y’all are bananas with critical thinking skills equivalent to MAGA.
You do believe US propaganda, dumbass.
Those uygurs genocide victims are somewhere with hamas raped babies and iran's 30 000 death. Felt for it again award
Link me one official organization that calls it a genocide and is not a part of a country that considers itself explicitly at war with China. I'll wait.
https://amnesty.org.nz/china-draconian-repression-muslims-xinjiang-amounts-crimes-against-humanity/
https://www.humanrightsresearch.org/post/persecution-of-uyghurs-in-xinjiang-torture-crimes-against-humanity-and-genocide
https://www.ushmm.org/genocide-prevention/countries/china/chinese-persecution-of-the-uyghurs
edit adding: https://xinjiang.amnesty.org/
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Link me any reports proving the genocide is fake that aren’t linked to the Chinese government. Don’t worry, I’ll wait.
Sure. Here's the UN.
In fact, here's all claims made to the UN, the assessments and recommendations of investigative bodies, and all specific recommendations to China regarding alleged human rights abuses. By a Uyghur rights group. None of which calls anything China has done as genocide. Because it is a CIA-funded Uyghur rights group, it does call counter terrorism of the internationally recognized terrorist organization known as the East Turkestan Party 'cultural oppression.' But even that slant is hollow when they actually link to the OHCHR reports which show, at worst, some family members directly internationally recognized as linked to known terrorists and that are actually on the no-fly list in the US were arrested and put into rehabilitation after the terror attacks.
Edit: And to be clear, I just did the impossible by proving a negative. In all logic and debate it is on the claimant to prove their case. next time have proof.
LOL
I’m guessing you didn’t read that UN report which is condemning China for human rights violations.
I did, extensively when it came out. That's not genocide.
If you actually cared to read the report what they allege they found is 'systemic arrests of families of captured Uyghur terrorists,' that 'have nothing to do with their family member's terrorism,' and were held 'without bond until trial.' No genocide. No systemic abuse of all uyghurs. Less than 1% of an extremely small population involved.
Given CHINA WAS VIOLENTLY ATTACKED FOR HALF A DECADE BY TURKISH UYGHURS PAID BY THE CIA, you might understand why families of those terrorists were, you know, investigated arrested and rehabilitated in the off chance they too were a part of a terror organization.
That plus the multi-hundred billion dollar investment in Xinjiang resulting in one of the largest, fastest decreases in poverty rates in world history is why China hasn't had another terror attack despite being bordered with Turkey, where the terror organization still exists.
“It’s just forced sterilization, family separation, sexual violence, forced labor, and illegal deportations but they didn’t kill them so it’s not genocide. I support China.”
Whatever you say, Blue MAGA.
A) BlueMAGA exclusively refers to the 'Vote Blue no Matter Who" Crowd. It was a leftist term before you liberals even knew what MAGA was.
B) There is no forced sterilization found. Some was alleged at one point, but there has never been evidence, including production of the individuals who claimed this happened, ever. The only source for this was anonymous reports from Radio Free Asia, the CIA propaganda outlet that also purports to believe China is stealing white children from tourists.
C) Family Separation, aka taking kids into state care when their parents are arrested. This has been the only confirmed cases where this has happened, according to the report that I linked.
D) Sexual Violence possibly happened... as it does in all criminal justice systems. We don't know, there is no evidence of this, including production of anyone that has ever claimed this happened to them; but yes this is the most probable 'abuse' that exists. If you give prison guards power and privacy, they rape. This is true in every single country on Earth and is a reason that eventually justice systems need to be abolished.
E) Forced Labor, aka, what every single country on earth does with prisoners during rehabilitation. Every single one. There isn't a prison system where this doesn't happen. It's part of every psychologist's recommendation for correcting criminal behavior.
F) "Illegal deportation" isn't a thing that can happen.
G) 'Cultural Genocide' is a thing thanks to the US definition of genocide, but even that's not actually being alleged since, you know, you can visit Xinjiang and actually speak Uyghur to nearly anyone there. It's taught in every school in the region to all persons in the region, along with mandatory cultural festivals for students. Same as Cantonese being taught in that region, Tibetan taught in that region, and Mongolian taught in that region. Because of these facts no one even tries to claim cultural genocide anymore, and it doesn't fit any other possible definition of genocide.
Was the response to a half decade of terror attacks a bit extreme? Maybe, that's subjective. And not something anyone in the US or Europe can criticize, given you people responded to terror attacks by killing 2+ million Arabs.
"I discovered a community of people disagree with me about something I think I understand quite well. It's the same community that originated Lemmy, it's a community of people who actually come from and live in different parts of the world, and it's the same community many folks just sign up to incidentally when they first check out federated stuff, meaning nothing by it. Better just block the entire thing, lol, I sure know what I'm doin!"
You really sound like a jackass lmao
It's not willful ignorance to block users, comms, or instances. I've been pushed to block news/politics comms across multiple lemmy instances just to save myself the time spent reading the smooth-brained mouth-breathers argue we should abandon money and build a utopia out of hopes and dreams.
It can be willful ignorance to do so, it isn't always. Blocks are very useful.
Fair enough, but in that case your argument seems in favor of staying with established systems even when central figures in those systems are corrupt. It's hard not to sympathize with the impulse to separate from systems with prominent corruption, but perhaps there is an argument to be made about the need to tolerate some level of corruption for sake of social structure.
My point is really the commenter's seeming inability to find nuance. Or maybe more charitably, disinterest in finding nuance.
There's this childish kneejerk response, tuned to sound aligned with "the right side of history", that's really just people being allergic to information and ideas too different from their own. They go "ooo scary/bad! I heard about those tankies!" and just panic ban.
I've seen the same flavor of it where people who happen to have signed up to .ml, knowing nothing about the landscape and just to figure all this federated stuff out, get berated for ideas they don't share and never stated. Based on where their account is.
It's all just very shallow and much more like team sports than anything else. Virtue signalling. Which I guess shouldn't be too surprising.
I blocked several political coms because I know I'm very flammable and opinionated, and would rather not get banned.
I’m sorry to hear you support genocide.
Real careful thinker huh.
That's actually quite wild coming from someone on dbzero0, which is doing the same on an instance level as instance policy
That's because unlike China, your Israeli buddies are actually bombing people with white phosphorus.
Now shoo, off to jeffrey island you go