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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 7 points 15 hours ago

I have always seen NATO as an alliance to get the US out of the mess they caused

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Please don't ask what the guy who was in charge of Unit 731 (and his second in command) did after WW2 or why the Washington Airspace Museum is full of german names.

And for the love of Ruthkanda, don't look up Operation Gladio.

[–] innerwar@lemmy.ca 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

What the fuck did I just read? Specifically targeting left leaning groups? What possible reason would an org like nato need that for?!

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 16 points 15 hours ago

NATO was formed as an antirevolutionary inter-imperialist coalition military. The entire purpose of NATO is to protect imperialist countries and kill off any leftists that stand to get in the way of western plunder.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] ReCursing@feddit.uk -4 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Any thing to back that up because that sounds like bullshit spread by the fascist US government who want NATO gone on behalf of Russia

[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 4 points 6 hours ago

Apart from what everyone else has provided you, this comment has a lot of great and interesting sources to improve your reading

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 14 points 15 hours ago

sounds like bullshit spread by the fascist US government who want NATO gone on behalf of Russia

It's so cool how Qanon tier conspiracy theory is now mainstream thought amongst western liberals

[–] Salah@hexbear.net 8 points 18 hours ago

I hope that you will actually look at the sources that people gave you. It’s understandable that you are sceptical but it’s very important to learn the actual origin of NATO because it’s the first step of understanding that NATO has been a tool for imperialism and the suppression of leftists revolutions around the world since its inception

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Many former Nazi officials were high ranking members of NATO, including Adolf Heusinger. This makes sense, considering NATO is a military coalition of imperialist countries meant to deter revolution against imperialism and neocolonialism, like SEATO, ANZUS, and CENTO.

If Trump destroyed NATO, this would genuinely be an accidental anti-imperialist move.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If Trump destroyed NATO, this would genuinely be an accidental anti-imperialist move.

Many such cases

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

God damn. I had a vague understanding of all that, but to have it all documented makes me a bit ill. America has a serious issue of lack of comeuppance.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 12 points 23 hours ago

We can have the solace that the US empire cannot last forever, and with all the atrocities it has and continues to commit, in the long term its digging its own grave. The people of the world refuse to be kept in chains, they have risen up and will continue to do so. Class struggle will rear its head until class society is abolished, and the contradictions inherent to it are resolved.

[–] Smackyroon@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

who want NATO gone

hahaha we ALL want NATO gone around here, its a Nazi Imperialist org.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

And the EU with it please

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I appreciate your honest curiosity/inquiry. The world is more complex than what it seems (and certainly more complex than "Russia bad, NATO good"), and I doubt anyone can competently hold all this info in their head, so stay safe out there and remain curious.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I think that is the best description of the clusterfuck of a world we have.

No one can keep the competing rivalries and poor choices leading to worse ones straight in their heads. Thousands of years of people being absolute morons to each other, and no one will ever untie the gordian knot.