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For those interested on the question of age verification and GNU/Linux: be aware that Systemd v261-rc1 was recently released. It now implements an optional birth date field in the JSON user database (see second item under "Other changes").

The implementation of this field was prompted by age-verification or -attestation laws.

(Age-verification status of Open Source Operating Systems.)

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[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago

Where is the patch to roll this back? I hope i can one day soon sudo apt install not-today-nazis

[–] excel@lemming.megumin.org 50 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Yes, right next to the fields for your full name and address, all of which are optional. It’s a total nothingburger.

[–] TheMadBeagle@lemmy.ml 18 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Did you ignore the comment in the github where it, and I quote "Stores the user's birth date for age verification, as required by recent laws in California (AB-1043), Colorado (SB26-051), Brazil (Lei 15.211/2025), etc.". Yes it is optional NOW, but this is in preparation of laws that make it legally Mandatory. Don't down play this.

[–] excel@lemming.megumin.org 5 points 7 hours ago

Miss me with this "slippery slope" BS.
Having a standardized place to store the DOB is a good thing and it should have been there even before these laws.
And if some users want to comply with those laws, then they should have a way to do it.
If anybody actually tries to make this a hard requirement (which isn't going to happen), then you can bitch about it at that time.

[–] korbel@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

What you quote is the justification why a new field should be added. You can't just say e.g. a Wardrobe number should be added without justifying it, otherwise it won't be accepted. You can say a Wardrobe number should be added because recent scientific developments suggest that some wardrobes open up new worlds, so it became necessary to extend the address field.

This doesn't mean systemd would enforce anything or go into the politics of certain jurisdictions. It just enables distros to use this field, and it's up to the distros what they want to do with it.

[–] Bogus007@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

You don’t have such fields in openrc, runit or S6.

[–] OccasionallyFeralya@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago

Those options don’t do the same things as SystemD though

[–] xohshoo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Just like the room number when using the adduser command

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[–] lambipapp@lemmy.world 83 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Could someone explain to me why numerous Linux development groups are jumping on board with this bullshit? This is I think the third such post I've read that a distro or however you call it, is integrating the age check. Since when does the Linux community get on board with Big Brother????

[–] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A surprising amount of people in the open source community lean alt-right including the lead dev of systemd, some of FUTO, and others like hyprland, etc. Others like the actual dev that committed the age field code to systemd state they are apolitical but in reality are actually enabling those that want to do harm.

[–] northmaple1984@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

This attack is no limited to "alt-right", it is across the political spectrum. Ex. there are plenty of lefty states implementing these laws.

Authoritarian is still authoritarianism whether it's from left or right.

(I'd also argue that software development is generally filled with leftists, I think the recent rise of prominent right-leaning developers is in reponse to many projects forgoing politically neutrality)

[–] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

That's fair. Authoritarianism across the board is inherently anti-free and will give rise to enshittified or unsecure software given enough time. We're not only dealing with bigots that can't stand living on the same planet as others they don't understand, but also those that want strict authority and enforcement.

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago

There's a breed of incel who benefits from power tripping in community projects. Think reddit mods.

[–] helix@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

Well I mean if you add an age field now and pretend it works you might get in front of laws which would require a shittier version. Now they can say "we have age verification".

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[–] M33@piefed.world 31 points 1 day ago (8 children)

It’s sad because at some point, when mainstream browsers will actually rely on systemd for that, website will block you.

Given enough time and ressources, that age control will hit hard like DRM.

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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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