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How does it stack up against traditional package management and others like AUR and Nix?

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[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I like it but I would prefer it to be more restrictive out of the box. Such as have apps declare a list of urls the are permitted to contact , a browser could have * .

I'd like a more granular filesystem list too more akin to apparmors were each file path needed is explicitly defined, in some cases you would need a wildcard or a directory but for most apps this could be done.

[–] chat_mots@jlai.lu 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I love the idea and the philosophy behind ! I have no trouble with them for now, one click install perfect.

However I’ll never use it for programming and I don’t understand why people use vs code flatpak or other coding app, because the app is contained and cannot interact with your system.

[–] Shareni@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

the app is contained and cannot interact with your system.

It can. Think of it like allowing a phone app to interact with your stored files.

https://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions.html#

[–] chat_mots@jlai.lu 2 points 1 year ago

@Shareni@programming.dev @CeeBee@lemmy.world thanks for the resources I did not know. I was pretty confused it was not possible to do it and here you are thx ! :)

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[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The sandbox can be very cumbersome when there is not a way to break out. I'm thinking specifically of command line tools for developers. You can poke holes in the sandbox to access the filesystem, but the moment you want to run an executable it won't let you.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Flathub doesn't accept CLI tools (unlike the Snap store)

Regarding modifying Sandboxes, try Flatseal

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[–] baru@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Flatpaks aren't meant for command line utilities.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Right. I mean something like an embedded terminal in an IDE that has full shell access to the host environment.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I think Flatpaks are great for applications like Firefox, Steam, etc. where dependencies or delay in package distribution due to building multiple versions can be a problem.

However, there are many situations where Flatpak's sandbox can be more detriment than helpful, if the application wasn't developed with that in mind. It's not a silver bullet for everything.

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I never ever will use a flatpak or snap or whatever "application". I'm using good old .deb package.

I like it, it's good for desktop apps but I LOVEEEEEE nix, if there was a graphical box distro I think it would beat everything else out of the water. Full reproducible builds is not something to sneeze at

[–] cafuneandchill@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's alright

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

What's not to Ike? These systems' development has been long overdue.

[–] scratchandgame@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I personally think it is trash..

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[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 1 points 1 year ago

The picture is too big.

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where's that Chris Pratt meme? --

I don't know what that is and at this point I'm afraid to ask

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Flatpak is a project trying to fix many things at once

  • make apps that work on every distro
  • thus have apps officially supported by the devs, unlike distro packages mostly
  • sandbox apps with an android-like permission system with a rating system
  • use modern standards like delta-downloads, deduplication and BTRFS compression to save storage space
  • make everything nice and user friendly
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