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I've been on Wayland for the past two years exclusively (Nvidia).

I thought it was okay for the most part but then I had to switch to an X session recently. The experience felt about the same. Out of curiosity, I played a couple of games and realized they worked much better. Steam doesn't go nuts either.

Made me think maybe people aren't actually adopting it that aggressively despite the constant coverage in the community. And that maybe I should just go back.

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[–] ScottE@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

When I'm forced to, and not before then. X works perfectly well so there's no reason for me to switch to something else with less features.

[–] chris@lem.cochrun.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

A year and a half? Basically when hyprland got good enough. I used to use awesome and needed something with similar pretty features.

[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

Since Fedora 35 or more specifically rawhide in the lead up to Fedora 36, so late 2021. Plasma Wayland session, it had some rough edges, but I found it tolerable. I understand some people wont put up with it, or find workarounds and that is fair. Its been good to experience it as it has matured.

[–] joe_archer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When network keyboard and mouse sharing works. It is the only thing stopping me going full Wayland.

[–] Communist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] banghida@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes. Since 2013 or so, if I remember correctly. Gnome 3.10.

[–] jfx@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am dependent on a couple of programs I run via wine - and wine still isn't directly compatible with wayland and buggy with xwayland...

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[–] zarenki@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I've been using it since it felt usable enough in GNOME to me. Around 2015-ish, give or take a year. GNOME leading on Wayland support is a big part of why I switched to it from Xfce back then. Nowadays KDE and others have plenty good Wayland support too (better in some ways like allowing server-side decorations and global shortcuts) but I just haven't felt like trying to properly experiment to see what I like.

I've always avoided Nvidia on my desktops. Stuck with either radeon or intel and never had any exceptionally big issues with them on Wayland. Though other things like hardware accelerated video decoding have had a history of being spotty on some drivers/GPUs.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

When I can use mtp connections with cli apps instead of only gui apps

[–] IsoSpandy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I am a relatively new Linux user, 3 years (almost 2 years dual booted with Windows and now only Linux) and I started using Wayland after approx 2.5 years ago. I used it on my ideapad gaming with 3050etx and Intel igpu and prior to that I used some hp laptop... With gtx 980mx. I used manjaro then arch and then fedora for the last yeae mostly and I haven't encountered any issues with Wayland whatsoever

I've been daily-driving hyprland for the last couple of months and it's been very smooth sailing for me. I configured it to very closely resemble my bspwm - polybar config though it was easier to set up. I have to say that in 99% of cases the experience is equivalent. You also get to run Wayland exclusive applications (though those aren't really common).

[–] gortbrown@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Generally I have when I use Gnome or KDE on Linux, though I have started to prefer MATE, which doesn't have Wayland support yet afaik. I also started using FreeBSD on one of my computers a bit more, and I believe Wayland support is still a bit wonky on that right now. But as soon as Wayland support is there I'm definitely switching to that on the daily.

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[–] loopgru@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Niche, I know, but I'm waiting on full functionality in Input Leap (Barrier fork which was a Synergy 1.x fork). Right now it sounds like it's 90% of the way there but lacks clipboard sharing. I'm running Wayland on my desktop, but this soft kvm is pretty fundamental to my workflow on my laptop.

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[–] MangoKangaroo@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Been on it for about a year now, both with my desktop's A770 and my laptop's AMD iGPU. Experience has been pretty much flawless.

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I couldn't get the trackpad working right on X (why tf is acceleration on by default?), tried switching to Wayland in the first few hours of using Linux, and haven't had significant issues since. At that point I had no reference on performance, so no way to tell if X would be better.

There's maybe one bug that causes an unrecoverable GPU hang when using certain applications, but that may have been fixed in the kernel already, and I just need to use something newer than 22.04 LTS.

[–] ProtonBadger@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

A year-ish, Plasma, Intel iGPU for Desktop and Nvidia offload for Steam. It's great.

[–] giddy@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

When VMWare Horizon Client (which I need for work) supports it

[–] dosse91@lemmy.trippy.pizza 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've been using it since Plasma 6 came out so about 3-4 weeks.

Overall, it's been a very negative experience for me. The main problems have been:

  • Random scaling issues in apps: some apps show a slightly smaller cursor, other show a poorly upscaled one, others have random rendering issues like lines remaining on the screen after an option is no longer highlighted (gimp, libreoffice, many others), some apps have random flickering of parts of the UI, some apps no longer scale at all or are scaled twice. Plasmashell itself has blurry icons on the desktop but all other KDE apps don't. I know fractional scaling has always been problematic, but it has gotten worse to the point of being almost unusable
  • Random crashes of GTK apps when using the wayland backend. Some GTK apps don't even start and segfault immediately with a wayland error in the terminal
  • Some apps like okular and libreoffice lag like crazy or outright freeze when scrolling
  • Some games not capturing the cursor properly (Proton)
  • Inconsistent font rendering, some fonts look fine in some apps and atrocious in others
  • Issues when resizing or moving windows, some times they "jerk" off the screen or resize to a very tiny window and I'm forced to use key combinations to resize them again
  • Random issues with window decoration not appearing in some apps but randomy appearing for things like context menus

This is on a full AMD system with Arch Linux, the latest kernel and mesa-git. I hope for KDE's sake that there's something broken in my installation because I can't believe the KDE team released Plasma 6 in this sorry state.

[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I haven't run KDE 6 but on Kubuntu with the last LTS 5.27 release, I don't have any of those issues also on a fully AMD system

You know, some personal anecdote here but Arch is a really shitty distro when it comes to subtle, hard to detect, system config breakage so maybe there's something wrong somewhere in the system?

Give it a try with another distro like Debian or something and see if the issues happen there

And if they do, for the love of fuck FILE BUG REPORTS! The only reason we're here today is because people who got annoyed at shit filed bug reports for it

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[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 1 points 1 year ago

I daily drive wayland with nvidia and I play games modestly. I have Xorg installed as backup for when issues happen, but it's been pretty rare in the last couple months.

[–] HarriPotero@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've been daily driving it on some devices for maybe 6 months.

My only showstopper was input-leap, but I have not had to use it for two months. So I've gone all-in since. It works better in every sense - except for the input-leap thing.

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[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, since Fedora 21 when it switched by default.

It hasn't really caused game breaking issues for me, however it is nice that the few nit-picks have all been resolved.

I get the sense that the majority of people use it on Workstations, there is just a vocal minority that resists the change. There are so many academic and enterprise users just using distros in their default state Wayland and all.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I've been using it for a few years now. Not really given me any issues so I don't have any reason to use X again, but my use case is pretty basic 🤷

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Since I mostly run Debian with KDE, I've been using it a lot since KWin is on its stable repo.

First time I really use it is on Gentoo, which exclusively runs Plasma. Since it's rolling-release, it didn't take too long to be available.

I've been moving this build from one computer to another, they all work fine. Currently it's on a Thinkpad W530. Got some problems with multi-monitor that never happen under X11. Thankfully after I replace the firmware with coreboot, and opted for dGPU only, I never encountered any issue.

Currently, what keeps me from fully ditching X11 on KDE is the buggy SDDM support.

On the other hand, I've been using Linux Mint on my work PC. As you may have known, neither Cinnamon and XFCE has it at the moment.

[–] Ing0R@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I'm running Wayland for many months now. Yust because why not. It just works. Debian sid with gnome here.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

I have for more than a year. I've never had a single problem, but I'm on an all AMD system.

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