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I've been on Wayland for the past two years exclusively (Nvidia).

I thought it was okay for the most part but then I had to switch to an X session recently. The experience felt about the same. Out of curiosity, I played a couple of games and realized they worked much better. Steam doesn't go nuts either.

Made me think maybe people aren't actually adopting it that aggressively despite the constant coverage in the community. And that maybe I should just go back.

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[–] ProtonBadger@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

A year-ish, Plasma, Intel iGPU for Desktop and Nvidia offload for Steam. It's great.

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 1 points 1 year ago

I daily drive wayland with nvidia and I play games modestly. I have Xorg installed as backup for when issues happen, but it's been pretty rare in the last couple months.

[–] giddy@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

When VMWare Horizon Client (which I need for work) supports it

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I've been using it for a few years now. Not really given me any issues so I don't have any reason to use X again, but my use case is pretty basic 🤷

[–] dosse91@lemmy.trippy.pizza 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've been using it since Plasma 6 came out so about 3-4 weeks.

Overall, it's been a very negative experience for me. The main problems have been:

  • Random scaling issues in apps: some apps show a slightly smaller cursor, other show a poorly upscaled one, others have random rendering issues like lines remaining on the screen after an option is no longer highlighted (gimp, libreoffice, many others), some apps have random flickering of parts of the UI, some apps no longer scale at all or are scaled twice. Plasmashell itself has blurry icons on the desktop but all other KDE apps don't. I know fractional scaling has always been problematic, but it has gotten worse to the point of being almost unusable
  • Random crashes of GTK apps when using the wayland backend. Some GTK apps don't even start and segfault immediately with a wayland error in the terminal
  • Some apps like okular and libreoffice lag like crazy or outright freeze when scrolling
  • Some games not capturing the cursor properly (Proton)
  • Inconsistent font rendering, some fonts look fine in some apps and atrocious in others
  • Issues when resizing or moving windows, some times they "jerk" off the screen or resize to a very tiny window and I'm forced to use key combinations to resize them again
  • Random issues with window decoration not appearing in some apps but randomy appearing for things like context menus

This is on a full AMD system with Arch Linux, the latest kernel and mesa-git. I hope for KDE's sake that there's something broken in my installation because I can't believe the KDE team released Plasma 6 in this sorry state.

[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I haven't run KDE 6 but on Kubuntu with the last LTS 5.27 release, I don't have any of those issues also on a fully AMD system

You know, some personal anecdote here but Arch is a really shitty distro when it comes to subtle, hard to detect, system config breakage so maybe there's something wrong somewhere in the system?

Give it a try with another distro like Debian or something and see if the issues happen there

And if they do, for the love of fuck FILE BUG REPORTS! The only reason we're here today is because people who got annoyed at shit filed bug reports for it

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[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, since Fedora 21 when it switched by default.

It hasn't really caused game breaking issues for me, however it is nice that the few nit-picks have all been resolved.

I get the sense that the majority of people use it on Workstations, there is just a vocal minority that resists the change. There are so many academic and enterprise users just using distros in their default state Wayland and all.

[–] Veraxis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I have a laptop with integrated Intel graphics and a desktop with Nvidia graphics. I use Wayland on the former right now as of KDE 6. I have noticed some odd behaviors, but overall it has been fine. The latter, however, just boots to a black screen. I have neither the time nor the desire to debug that right now, so I will adopt Wayland on that machine when it works with Nvidia to a reasonable degree of stability.

[–] ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use Wayland since I got a second monitor, since X can't handle mixed DPI. I'd use X otherwise, since global hotkeys work there

[–] Communist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Global hotkeys work in kde wayland and hyprland!

[–] lengau@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, though "since when" depends on the machine. My last machine to switch over was one with an NVIDIA GPU a couple of months ago.

[–] Lumelore@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I don't use it because it makes blender run at like 5 fps for some reason.

[–] dsemy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I tried Wayland many times in the past ~6 years, usually with Sway (but I tried most other compositors, other than KDE's), but I always came back to X11 (using cwm).

Around two months ago I started using river, and I think I'll stick with it. There are enough Wayland protocols which now exist (and are supported by river) that using a minimal compositor feels pretty similar to just using a window manager on X.

[–] janAkali@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I could switch tomorrow if I could do my current setup:

  • Tiling Window manager (sway?)
  • simple status bar to output text from a script with clickable applet icons (waybar?)
  • the way to show/hide windows on a button press - I have a script that I use to quickly toggle 3 dropdown terminal windows

Last time I tried Wayland in December, I had issues with waybar not supporting clicking tray applet icons. Also I've ported my dropdown terminals script to support sway - and it worked half the time, like, literally every second key press was ignored.

On one hand I have X session that currently has no downsides for me, on other - wayland that has no upsides. Tell me, why would I switch?

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[–] apt_install_coffee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

About a year ago I moved to Hyprland & Wayfire for my NVIDIA & Intel boxes. Moved NVIDIA to Radeon a few months back and had mixed results.

Recently tried Plasma 6 for experimental HDR and am impressed.

[–] PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Got hyprland running on the macbook, have tested it out on desktop. Not quite the daily driver, plasma 6 on X is still the norm there, but I think as soon as synergy works in Wayland I’ll make the switch everywhere

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Whenever Nobara moves to KDE 6, I'll probs switch over to Wayland. Likely sometime this year.

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[–] Berny23@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Using Wayland with KDE Plasma 6 on Arch btw. But I installed the old NVIDIA driver 535, waiting for explicit sync in 555 to fix flickering in games.

[–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I've been using it since about spring 2022 and it's been way more reliable than X for me. The only times I've had trouble was one computer where I was missing one of the pipewire packages I needed for screen sharing and another time I tried to run it on a 20 year old Radeon X1600, but both of those were my fault and not something a normal user is likely to encounter. For context I've used Sway, Hyprland, GNOME, and Plasma although the usability has been the same between all of them.

[–] gravitywell@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I've been using Wayland since the end of last year, I haven't done any real benchmarking but games run about the same for me on either.

[–] take6056@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

Been running Wayland for 5 years on my development laptop (sway, Intel GPU, blacklisted the nvidia gpu). At the start I've had a couple of issues, nothing too bad. Haven't had any issues for over 2 years. Switched to Linux on my gaming PC about a year ago, KDE plasma on Wayland but do most of my gaming from a steam gamescope session. Very happy overall with Wayland, glad it exists. Sharp text on a fractionally scaled display for reading code was just too compelling at the time and it only improved.

[–] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was using it on a new work machine, it was fine.

The main issue is all the good tiling wms are X11 based and I don't really want to use a wayland version of i3. I want some dynamic tiling goodies.

[–] Communist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

You're looking for Hyprland!

[–] TeddyKila@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

No. I plan to switch when I replace my 3070 with an AMD chip.

[–] drasglaf@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

KDE Wayland is an epilepsy inducing flickerfest with my Nvidia GPU, so it's off limits until they fix it. Games usually run fine on X11, but one exception I noticed is Noita, it runs like crap on X11, and runs great on Wayland for some reason.

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[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've been on Sway for a while now. Also have a computer on Plasma (Wayland).

(Intel iGPU, AMD APU, and AMD graphics card)

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