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[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, it's kinda unclear, English is not my first language.

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The reality is that there are many other wars around the world, yet the Russians are the only ones getting sanctioned. They should set an example by sanctioning everyone that currently works for a company that enables any military. Maybe then the world will see how stupid this whole thing is.

 

TLDR;

It literally hurts me personally to see this happening. It's like a kick in the gut. I used to be proud about having had an involvement with the Linux kernel community in a previous life. This doesn't feel like the community I remember being part of.

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 1 points 3 weeks ago

Even if that is the case, that doesn't mean that their code or the code they approve is garbage. I don't care who you are or who you work for. What you do in your life outside of open source is your own business. Quality of code is what matters in open source.

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They do have troll factories there to influence public opinion.

In the Linux kernel? No. Definitely not. Maybe you'd like to see what happened after they got removed from the maintainers list, it was spam and trolling, and that is not OK in any scenario.

The problem is this still leads to questions about transparency about the project in general and how this decision was made and whether it was made by those involved in the project or was an order from the US government.

My personal belief is that it was an advice by the lawyers and they went with it balls in because who would care about a few Russian maintainers, right 😒. Linus probably probably put GHK to it, as to not be him that does the PR, split the heat that may come their way, which it did.

I coldheartedly believe that Linus meant what he said since there was no apology afterwards. Russians are bad in general and they all think the same, they support Puttin.

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 0 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

They have been stripped of a role because of a thing that has nothing to do with their competence to contribute to the project. Quality of code is all that matters in open source, not who you are or who you work for.

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Sums up my feelings perfectly.

Mine as well.

Not that invested that much, but I seriously, I thought Linus was better than this... I wouldn't expect this even from Stalman to be honest, this is new level of low if you ask me.

What kind of a hellish timeline is this?

I have no idea... if everything is dictated by corps and governments (at least ones that we can't trust with simple things, such as healthcare), I really have really lost all faith in humanity as a whole... not because they're less human individually, but because no one sees anything wrong with this, in general...

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 0 points 3 weeks ago

Sorry, but the US is almost certainly the main culprit here. They're loosing power in every aspect and they want to reinstate that power in every way possible. As any human being, letting go of a position of power is hard. They just can't accept the fact that someone could be better than them in capitalism then them, which the Chinese proved they can.

It served them well when they were 1st, but it's no good when someone else does it.

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 2 points 3 weeks ago

Let's say that this company pays the best $$$ and that you really need money for... whatever... now, let's reverse the roles and this person is working for a company that has contracts with the US military during the time of the invasion of Iraq.

See my point... there would have been nothing wrong with that, but all of sudden, it's a problem if Russians do it 🤨...

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Political as in freedom to contribute, not political as in "we're banning devs because they work for someone we don't like".

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 1 points 3 weeks ago

Not everywhere. I seriously doubt Cuba has sanctions against anyone.

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 1 points 3 weeks ago

That's shared source, look it up, it has nothing to do with open source.

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 1 points 3 weeks ago

What? Almost none of the tech where I live is from the US. Not to mention that Samsung is the biggest contender to Apple in the US and they're more or less 50/50 with market share ATM.

The US is losing the war on world domination, something they were winning the past century or so, and they don't like that. That's basically the only reason any of this is happening. The war is just an excuse. As always, they would rather have Russia and China out of the picture than having to compete with them... because they can't, especially not with China.

 

Official statement regarding recent Greg' commit 6e90b675cf942e from Serge Semin

Hello Linux-kernel community,

I am sure you have already heard the news caused by the recent Greg' commit 6e90b675cf942e ("MAINTAINERS: Remove some entries due to various compliance requirements."). As you may have noticed the change concerned some of the Ru-related developers removal from the list of the official kernel maintainers, including me.

The community members rightly noted that the quite short commit log contained very vague terms with no explicit change justification. No matter how hard I tried to get more details about the reason, alas the senior maintainer I was discussing the matter with haven't given an explanation to what compliance requirements that was. I won't cite the exact emails text since it was a private messaging, but the key words are "sanctions", "sorry", "nothing I can do", "talk to your (company) lawyer"... I can't say for all the guys affected by the change, but my work for the community has been purely volunteer for more than a year now (and less than half of it had been payable before that). For that reason I have no any (company) lawyer to talk to, and honestly after the way the patch has been merged in I don't really want to now. Silently, behind everyone's back, bypassing the standard patch-review process, with no affected developers/subsystem notified - it's indeed the worse way to do what has been done. No gratitude, no credits to the developers for all these years of the devoted work for the community. No matter the reason of the situation but haven't we deserved more than that? Adding to the GREDITS file at least, no?..

I can't believe the kernel senior maintainers didn't consider that the patch wouldn't go unnoticed, and the situation might get out of control with unpredictable results for the community, if not straight away then in the middle or long term perspective. I am sure there have been plenty ways to solve the problem less harmfully, but they decided to take the easiest path. Alas what's done is done. A bifurcation point slightly initiated a year ago has just been fully implemented. The reason of the situation is obviously in the political ground which in this case surely shatters a basement the community has been built on in the first place. If so then God knows what might be next (who else might be sanctioned...), but the implemented move clearly sends a bad signal to the Linux community new comers, to the already working volunteers and hobbyists like me.

Thus even if it was still possible for me to send patches or perform some reviews, after what has been done my motivation to do that as a volunteer has simply vanished. (I might be doing a commercial upstreaming in future though). But before saying goodbye I'd like to express my gratitude to all the community members I have been lucky to work with during all these years.

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