1dalm

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[–] 1dalm@lemmy.today -2 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Linux Community: It's Free Software. You can do what you want!

Also Linux community: BUT NOT THAT!

[–] 1dalm@lemmy.today -1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Well, very possibly.

That's actually a funny consequence I hadn't thought of. A media company could go to a pirating site and then file a police report claiming neglect of child protections. That could really start to spiral quick...

[–] 1dalm@lemmy.today -3 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

You'll get age-gated in a heart beat.

[–] 1dalm@lemmy.today 1 points 18 hours ago (7 children)

The funny thing is that by January 7, all the bros screaming "I'll never use an OS that asks my age" will have switched to an OS that asks their age because they can't go a week without their porn.

[–] 1dalm@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Pixel isn't sold with GraphineOS. You have to install it yourself.

[–] 1dalm@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

I think it's more likely that soon China will start heavily pushing out a forked version of Linux on cheap fully home-built PCs. Then it's basically game over for American software companies.

[–] 1dalm@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think it's going to be higher than that. I think a lot of counties will start rapidly migrating away from American software companies, and the only alternative is Linux. China will soon really start pushing out their own fully home-grown cheap PCs to the world with some flavor of Linux as the OS. American software companies won't be able to compete.

Globally, I bet the desktop marketshare for various flavors of Linux is pushing 90% by 2040.

[–] 1dalm@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Are there any actual "GraphineOS" devices currently for sale anywhere?

(I know Motorola has some plans to roll out GraphineOS phones in the future, but this would probably complicate those plans if GraphineOS really prohibits Motorola from complying with laws.)

[–] 1dalm@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago

I think it's going to start skyrocketing in global desktop use. Maybe not in the US, but globally lots of other countries have good reason to migrate away from US based software companies

[–] 1dalm@lemmy.today -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I didn't understand your disagreement. Yes just like a bar shouldn't be responsible for a person that gets plastered drunk after they leave, Facebook shouldn't be responsible for the actions of a predator that goes to a porn website to lure kids. Just like the Catholic Church shouldn't be responsible for a public school teacher that rapes her students at school. The only times any of these organizations are responsible is when the abuses happen while using their services.

I don't get why this is controversial.

I can't speak for the military's recruiting practices. Yes, I fully agree that the military's recruitment practices are very predatory, and should be reigned in. Politically, I personally think "enlistment" shouldn't be an option at all. It should be random draft. Every year the military should tell Congress how many new recuits they need, and Congress should approve a draft of 18 year olds for that many new recuits. The draft should be random, with no deferments or other ways out of service other than health reasons as determined by a military physician. (But that's way off topic.)

[–] 1dalm@lemmy.today 0 points 2 days ago

The problem the predators would have if they are relegated to the "kid friendly" sectors is that those sectors are much better policed by users and the corporations.

It's not really the public content that is the problem, the problems really come when a predator can lure a child into a private chat. That's when the predator can start their process of grooming that eventually leads to blackmailing the child (grooming is a process and it's damn evil and damn sinister). By relegating the users to "kid friendly" areas, the opportunity to pull kids into private spaces is greatly diminished.

Now, will the predators stop being predators? No. But if the platforms have strong child protection policies that make it more difficult for the predators, then they will move on to a website that has weaker policies. Which is just about the best an organization or platform can do, make the predators uncomfortable enough that they go hunt someone else's kids.

 

Okay you are ready to take a stand for freedom!

You are going to use an OS that isn't going to bend the knee and comply with age verification laws. I solute you, comrade!

Here are the likely consequences of your choice:

The Feds aren't coming after you. You aren't going to be out on a watch list.

What will likely happen is that if you try to log into your Facebook account you will get a message that says "Your Operating System is not currently supported. Your user experience will be limited to Groups labeled "Everyone"."

That's basically it. Your personal user experience will be limited to "kid friendly" areas of the Internet. (Same with apps and games.)

That's the real driver of these laws. Facebook and other app producers know that the days where they can just shrug off child predators using their products is coming to and end. Regardless of your opinion on age verification is as a solution, child predators are a real world problem and it's not just the parents fault. The platforms have some responsibility too.

Which is exactly what Facebook and the others specifically don't want -responsibility for their own platforms. That's why they are pushing for these laws that off load their responsibility onto the OS makers. Then they can just say "Oh, we don't have any responsibility for this child being abused in our platform. We asked the OS what the user's age was and the OS reported 18+. What else could we have done?"

So, that's the consequence if you choose to use an OS that refuses to comply. You'll just be relegated to the kid friendly version of website, games, and applications.

(On the other hand, if your OS chooses to falsely report to a website or an app an age for a child that is abused, then the OS should also be held responsible. But at that point you can go ahead and blame the parents too for letting their child use an OS that isn't safe for them to use.)

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