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Nah, JD is just fine with banning abortions and counts the issue solved

Uh-huh, and plenty of NAS devices had 2,5Gbe even those 6 years ago.

I see! :)

The ports on most Synology devices are the weak spot indeed.

This never was about climate science, no one denies it here. And it's sad to see you take a stance that puts your emotions above any actual productivity. But alas.

I outline the very same arguments as you in the same thread - and on the substance, I 100% agree. The question is to form, and it is more important than what you make it out to be.

The reason I talk about the way you express your concern is because the more we yell at each other and try to "expose" each other acting in bad faith, the more division grows between people and the harder it gets to actually convince anybody of anything. Anger and unfounded blame game repels, not convinces.

I'll only eat you if you're rich.

The person in question didn't argue against green energy, they argued for local European solar industry. While one of the consequences in this case could be Europe being able to install less solar, this is something to introduce in your counterargument, highlighting the consequences.

Being hostile drives people away, and this particular commenter is probably not a decision-maker in European solar, so you're not missing anything if you kindly introduce an alternative point of view. It is politicians in office that we should pressure, as they have something real to lose when we don't support them. Shitting on regular people, on the other hand, will simply get your opinion ignored.

Never would have thought about racism, honestly :D

But such a care is something to admire

Sure, that's what I threw in the "politically advantageous" bucket to not expand on it too much

Though I do not expect China to blackmail Europe with solar, but I see the concern.

So, in your mind this is a hidden lobbyist who tries to abuse "we destroyed local production" argument to make sure Europe slows down solar rollout and remains dependent on fossil for longer?

Not only is this too much of an effort to come from this angle, it's also not a large platform to speak to.

Seeing an astroturfer in every person that has another angle on the issue is just plain paranoid, and at the same time makes you behave like an asshole towards others. This sort of behavior is what ruined many other platforms, with everyone yelling out of their echo chambers - angry, violent and utterly unproductive.

Algorithms have raised a generation of people doing what best engages them - shitting on each other. And when an alternative like Lemmy appears, where no algorithm is pushing anyone, people make the same mistakes. I urge you to break this chain, with compassion and care.

Do not assume bad faith over anything you disagree with.

While I disagree with the original statement, hostility never changed anyone's mind.

I see where you're coming with that, and in principle, some of the points you make I would clearly share under different circumstances.

But to me, even with the side effects, rapid rollout of green tech (even if its production is not kept to the best standard) beats slow incremental growth with good standards in place, given the urgency with which world requires it. After all, even poorly produced Chinese options very much do offset their footprint compared to the alternatives.

There are some points for concern, such as the use of lithium ion batteries, for example, but Chinese companies also think ahead and implement alternative options - in case of batteries, they increasingly work with sodium-ion instead.

As per "unfair" subsidies - I'd rather urge all countries to go all in and compete on those, rather than complain about those who implemented them. Subsidies for green tech are essential to secure our future, they boost the green industry and expedite its expansion, and they should only be seen as a good, not the evil.