I'm not, I barely crossoposted this from nutomic's post on !lemmy@lemmy.ml !
Blaze
joined 10 months ago
Lemmy has been around for years, not months
Let's be realistic here, the large majority of people came here around June last year. I knew about Lemmy before, it had a few hundreds users before that.
Everything about the proposal is optional. I don’t understand why it matters to you. You seem to be fine with the current state and this proposal wouldn’t disrupt that.
Well, someone has to implement it. It matters to me because the developers of whatever platform we are talking about, be it Lemmy, Kbin, Mbin, Sublinks, have limited time and resources. Some subreddits are still not wanting to move to Lemmy due to the lack of moderation tools. This should be prioritized to allow more people to come to the platform, and have it as a solid alternative to Reddit beyond memes, news, tech and open source. To me, it's strictly a question of prioritization, and that's why I'm not in favor of dedicated effort into this while communities are already moving around organically.
If you want an example of community consolidation between different servers, there is !unixporn@lemmy.ml and !unixporn@lemmy.world. Most of the activity if happening on lemmy.ml, and there was a backlash when the mods from the sub wanted to takeover the lemmy.world community. Both are still open, but someone who wants to post would see that the LW isn't as active as the .ml, and post to the latter.
About your point, there are two things at hand.
First, the technical possibility of it happening. It has been linked elsewhere, the Lemmy devs are not interested in this. Kbin has it, somehow, but the userbase is now on Lemmy, and I don't see it moving the Kbin/Mbin, except if they surpass Lemmy in features. Maybe sublinks will have this, we'll see.
But beyond the technical aspect, there is also the "political" aspect. People who don't like communities on LW are not going to enjoy being forced to have their content shared to LW communities too. People who avoid Lemmy.ml due to the political stance of the users are also not going to be happy to discuss with the people they are trying to avoid.
The point is that Lemmy has been around for some months now, people know each others, the other servers, and more or less where everyone stands. If people keep communities separated, there is a reason, and it's not going to be solved by technical measures.
The few last weeks were rough because of the 19.1 mess.
Federation should be working smoothly from now on.
What evidence shows that?
The merge of the cooking communities I shared with you in another comment: https://lemmy.world/post/7578470
This post is in fediverse@lemmy.world and crossposted to fediverse@lemmy.ml. There’s also fediverse@kbin.social and I know I’ve seen others. Most of these communities have been running for a few years now and there’s still no consolidation.
- fediverse.world: 104 comments
- fediverse.ml: 7 comments
Didn't find it in https://kbin.social/m/fediverse nor in any other community except lemmy.ml (2 comments)
Don't you think that we pretty much consolidated around fediverse.world?
For Linux, the main one is !linux@lemmy.ml.
For movies, the most active is !moviesandtv@lemm.ee, there is also !movies@lemmy.world, but it's getting less and less active, so we'll probably consolidate around the first one soon.
Gaming is an interesting choice, there are a few of them, but each have their reasons of existing
- !gaming@lemmy.world is for people who like LW
- !games@sh.itjust.works is for people who prefer to stay away from LW
- !gaming@beehaw.org like the slower and more moderated aspect of beehaw.
There are others, but the interesting aspect is in this case, every community has enough people to stay active.
I saw one recently in a linux community where a user complained about multiple “I ditched Windows” posts. I’ve seen requests for stickies in some gardening communities.
That's something that the moderators need to take action on, isn't it? Don't get me wrong, unmoderated communities is a whole issue on its own, but it doesn't seem linked to the community separation.
But they shouldn’t have to merge.
They don't have to, they can. But them being unwilling to merge similar communities seems strange, except if they can't agree on instance due to the instance politics.
Cooking communities did a few months ago: https://lemmy.world/post/7578470
Cooking communities merged:
That's what I meant with natural merging of communities
Should be fixed by now with version 19.2 and 19.3
That would be nice indeed, but with the development rhythm, it might take a while to get there. Sublinks on the other hands seems promising sublinks.org
Seems like here the number of developers comfortable in Java is a dependency