Dave

Are gamers getting older? It would be interesting to see how this breaks down by age.

I'm getting older. I have 3 kids and no time. 10 years ago I had no kids and 3 time. Now when I play, I just put it on the easiest setting and play it like an interactive movie.

Are we talking kraft or made from scratch?

I think it's like this: if your game is not on Steam, you won't sell many copies. Publishers fight to make sure the game is on Steam.

If your movie isn't on Steam, the company doesn't care. No one goes to Steam for movies. So Valve has to fight to get the rights to distribute (and compete with streaming services).

I don't know about that guy but you can't even get cheque books in NZ anymore. They were phased out, mostly because electronic payments are ubiquitous and most places already stopped accepting cheques a decade or two back.

Thanks! Feels a little like the exception that proves the rule though 😅

If you see the chain here (sorry, lemmy has no good way to link to a comment - here is a lemmyverse.link link for redirecting to it in your instance), it seems US courts generally follow (but are not obliged to follow) court orders from other countries where there is a similar law in the US. So it's likely now that California courts would uphold rulings in relation to GDPR, but other states probably wouldn't.

However, there's a giant caveat in that fines and penalties are specifically excluded (see above chain) so for my original question about whether the site could ignore the fine - well as far as I can tell they can ignore it, because it won't be enforced by US courts.

That doesn't rule out other action though. Perhaps a US court would uphold some sort of takedown order, since it's only fines and penalties that are specifically excluded and the US would likely have other laws (some sort of anti-stalking?) that could be used for the takedown request?

I'm almost certain that import and export has specific laws written for that case, considering how crucial it is to the country. GDPR is a specific new thing less than 10 years old and has no equivalent in US law.

Sorry, I may have given the impression that I mean I was questioning if there are any laws that control how interactions with other countries work. In fact my question was if there are generic laws that say "when Europe introduces some new law, the US has to follow it".

Thanks for providing this, I wasn't able to find it through my own searches. I'm reading the linked documents, and can't find anything to back up that the US courts will enforce the foreign fine. In fact, this is specifically addressed in the document and it seems to support that they will not support it.

C. The rule against recognition of foreign fines and penal judgments

The general rule in favor of recognizing foreign country judgments that meet the foundational requirements above is subject to a key exception: under both the Recognition Acts and the common law, U.S. courts generally do not recognize or enforce foreign judgments for the collection of taxes, fines, or penalties.

Given my original question was why can't they ignore the fine, it seems the answer is that they can?

Sorry but I went off on a thread with someone else and now I really need to know what this is based on. As far as I can tell, GDPR's international reach has never been tested, there is no specific legislation I can find, and any companies big enough for the EU to care also operate in the EU so can be hurt by EU courts (as in, pay the fine or no more Facebook in Europe).

I'm being down voted to hell for asking a question but I still want some confirmation of the answer backed up by something.

I did. The best I've found is that US companies have to follow GDPR because it says it's reach is international, and this has never been tested in court. Any specific cases are always related to big tech which EU courts can hurt, as far as I can tell there has never been any test of the reach for a site like in the OP.

Yeah, I guess I'd just like to see some case law or something to back up the idea. Or to know the specific law that says that US companies have to follow EU rules or they can be prosecuted in a US court.

Wow, really?

Like I get Apple or Netflix or whatever. They ignore a fine they will just not be allowed to operate in the EU.

But you're saying the US has laws that say US companies have to follow EU rules?

But can't the site owners just ignore the EU fines? What enforcement power does the EU have?