DreitonLullaby

joined 6 months ago
[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You cannot say things "uncontrollably" as there is still a community guidelines set of rules that just aren't as strict as YouTube's, plus the ability to report is there too. Despite being a free speech platform, it is still legally required not to host illegal content, and so these community guidelines absolutely must be there. If the comments or videos directly promote violence or hatred (just two examples), they are grounds for removal by site moderators. They are usually only removed when people report them, though, since the moderation team likely isn't very large at this point in time.

In my 2 years with Odysee, I've found one person earlier this year directly promoting extreme violence in a comment section. That's one time too many; but it's still a long time. I reported them, and they were removed. I don't know how long it took for them to remove it though, because I only checked if the comment was still there after a couple of weeks; and it wasn't; so I can't speak for the swiftness of the moderators in their actions yet.

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is an option on YouTube.

On Odysee, there's both the option to "Block" channels, or seperately "Mute" channels. You can also manage your blocked and muted channels separately under Profile > Settings > Content Settings > Blocked and muted channels. According to this page in the official Help Hub:

Blocking: "When you block a user, the blocked user can no longer comment on any of your content, channel, or comment threads. In addition to this, all comments and reactions left by the blocked user on your content, channel, or in the comments section, will be filtered for everyone."

Muting: "When you mute a user, you will no longer see them in any comment sections, replies, search results, homepage, related content, or anywhere else. They're hidden from your experience on Odysee."

So basically, if you don't want to see their content (including comments); mute them. If you don't want them to talk to you or be seen in your own channels' comment sections by both yourself or others; block them. If you want absolutely nothing to do with them, you can both block and mute them simultaneously. Note: The article shows how to block/mute them from within the comments section. You can also block/mute them from the channel page itself or by clicking the 3-dots beside their video thumnail.

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I find that since so many people watch such different content from each other, it means that whether or not the content on a smaller platform like Odysee is actually interesting to people, tends to be hit or miss. It still needs more growth fix that issue. I still watch a lot of YouTube though, and Odysee has their own official extension which allows you to choose to either redirect YouTube links to Odysee (if the same video officially exists there), or show a "Watch on Odysee" button right YouTube's "Subscribe" button.

I noticed there wasn't enough gameplay videos of the games that I like, and hardly any game soundtracks uploaded, so I started uploading my full game playthrough's and game OST's to a couple of channels for the people who also have my taste in videos. Oh yeah, fun fact: You can also have multiple channels on the same account and quickly switch between them. It's pretty cool. The extension even lets you transfer your subs over from YT.

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I completely understand not wanting to see that there, and you don't have to see it, and besides, I see that all over YouTube too when I'm not signed in receiving good recommendations based on what I like.

I suggest reading my comment response to YTG123 (which is the other person who just replied to you), since you probably weren't notified of it. Sorry to not reply directly, but I understandably don't want to write another few hundred words, and the comment is relevant to you.

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Good on you. I plan to pay for Mullvad VPN too when I can afford it again; with Monero too. Didn't know it had an internal ad-blocker for mobile though, that's awesome.

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago

It doesn't force recommendations on you, and channels you don't like can be muted or blocked. I've only blocked a handful of channels (Most of them were synced from YT too). Than there are sections: if you only want to see content you like to see, use the respective sections. If you want to see technology content, you aren't going to click on the spirituality section.

Furthermore, recommendations aren't actually a free feature (yet), as it's still in early access and comes with Premium. 99.99% of the people who are upset about the "recommended content" being stuff they strongly dislike aren't actually even being recommended anything to begin with. The videos that appear on the side are "Related" videos. Their system for determining related videos isn't extremely comprehensive yet, so some other random content can slip through the cracks. For example, I was listening to a no-copyright music track called Icelanding Arpeggios, and I was shown a "Related" video along the side; a video synced from YouTube, which was of a man's voice reading aloud Psalm 4 of the Old Testament with Icelanding Arpeggios playing in the background. The reason it was classified as "Related" wasn't because some system was able to listen to the music in the video, but because the exact words "Icelanding Arpeggios" appeared in the description of said video about that Psalm. Here's an example of "Related" suggestions. In this case they are working well and as intended, showing more video's related to Solid-State batteries.

So the current unfortunate reality is that a video about, for example, how gravity works, occasionally may suggest "Related" content on the side about gravity not being real, that the earth is flat, and that the sun is 3,000 miles in the sky. Because, you know, it's about the sun and gravity. The video's are technically related in some way, but most people who are learning about the universe don't want to see that, because it has no real scientific basis, is not widely accepted, and gravity and the ball earth has already been proven to be true.

After all, Odysee is still being developed, and their system's for suggested "Related" content is still not fully matured.

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (11 children)

Nice! Yeah, I use LibreWolf too and never saw them. I started using the mobile app recently which didn't block ads though. I found them a bit annoying because the mobile app is very unoptimised atm, so the ads being there just made things worse.

The way they worked previously was that they would appear in the apps interface. They wouldn't play within the video's themselves, and a small advertisement would pop up at the bottom of the screen which you could cross-off manually.

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago

PeerTube is great too

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Something I need to improve in my writing, I guess. Thanks.

[–] DreitonLullaby@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

I’m sorry to be the guy that tried to ruin your party, but “if we collectively…”… How many people are you talking about?

100, 1000, 10000, 100000 ?

As many people as are willing to do it. If you're not; that's fine; I'm not telling anyone they have to; it's just an encouragement.

Syncing is an alternative as long as it doesn’t mean that a view pays less on Odyssee than on YouTube. If it does, then the creator would not gain anything, just kidding income.

Syncing is up to the YouTuber, it's not hard to do, and requires no channel management after initially set up. They may not have a reason, depending on who they are, but it's better to get some people on board with it than none.

What is your selling argument for a YouTube creator with 100000 views on average to move to Odyssee?

There is no "selling" point other than that it's easy to set up and may earn them some extra cash, even if it's not much in comparison to their YouTube pay. Other than that, there's the fact that YouTube false copyright claims videos all the time, and if the YouTuber can't get their video back up, their viewers can still at least view it through Odysee where the synced video did not get removed. If the channel is automatically taken down by false copyright issues, as has happened before, the video's aren't suddenly lost forever. Not all YouTubers keep a backup of all their videos on their own drives, and if their channel is taken down completely, "bye bye content". I'm not trying to say that these reasons are much for most YouTubers, but with dozens of millions of YouTubers out there making good money, there are bound to be at least hundreds of thousands of them who would sync with Odysee if they knew about it.

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