FaceDeer

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[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

You mean before or after all the sites updated their ToS it so that they were legally in the clear to sell user posts to AI training companies?

The ToSes would generally have a blanket permission in them to license the data to third-party companies and whatnot. I went back through historical Reddit ToS versions a little while back and that was in there from the start.

Also in there was a clause allowing them to update their ToS, so even if the blanket permission wasn't there then it is now and you agreed to that too.

Learning from things is a very obviously a completely different process to feeding data into a server farm.

It is not very obviously different, as evidenced by the fact that it's still being argued. There are some legal cases before the courts that will clarify this in various jurisdictions but I'm not expecting them to rule against analysis of public data.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social -3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I find that often "movements" end up focused more on just continuing their movement rather than the underlying purpose of why they started moving in the first place.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

"Prompt engineering" is simply the skill of knowing how to correctly ask for the thing that you want. Given that this is something that is in rare supply even when interacting with other humans, I don't see this going away until we're well past AGI and into ASI.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

You have misunderstood me. You said "Apple spent twenty years building the ecosystem Spotify and Epic want to exploit for free." I'm pointing out that the amount of effort Apple put into building the ecosystem is immaterial to whether they're doing illegal things with it.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

And while it's probably true that "we're not ready", we're never going to become ready until the tech actually arrives and forces us to do that.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

"They broke the law fair and square" is an odd defence.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That just makes my point stronger, though. The basic gist of what I was saying is that even if there is a statistical clustering of data into two groups that seem correlated with some category, that doesn't mean that you can absolutely rely on that data to classify people into those categories.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 14 points 8 months ago

No, we're describing a human endeavour. If the promotional flyers had been made by outsourcing it to Fiverr and they came back wonky it would have been the same basic problem. They outsourced this and then ether didn't have the resources or interest in checking the work that came back.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social -4 points 8 months ago

You missed "techbro grifter scam" from your list of buzzwords.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 10 points 8 months ago

Famously, "50 Shades of Grey" started out as a Twilight fanfic. The author later pulled out all of the Twilight-related stuff and then it was free and clear to publish as their own work. Given how much money 50 Shades raked in I would imagine there's been some legal scrutiny there from various sides.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm a big fan of fanfic, I support it and consider it a serious literary genre. It's basically the folklore of our modern times. I'm also not a fan of how extensive and restrictive copyright protection has become.

That said, I do find it amusingly ironic when fanfic authors get in a big huff about their copyright being violated.

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