800 is reticle, they're not past that, it doesn't make sense.
They chiplet past 500, the economics break down otherwise.
InvertedParallax
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Decode overhead is fairly fixed, and proportionately has become tiny over the decades. Most larger instructions dispatch to microcode, and compilers know better than to use them much.
There's a price to x86, but for larger cores it's pretty small, we've learned to work around it.
Apple bothered to do the things Intel was too lazy to do for so long, particularly improve the ooo and other resources to where Intel didn't want to spend the silicon. Intel has always been cheap, nickel and diming their way out of performance, this is the cost.
They spent decades gaslighting you so you thought you were crazy for even imagining it.
Mostly, it's more that they had massive infighting, different projects kept fighting each other because everybody wanted to own "the next big thing", so they kept smothering other projects in their beds.
Read about knights landing, it was a beautiful piece of engineering that was eaten by politics.
Imagine a knights landing Ai core.
They brought him in to fix things, after a gaping finance moron named Bob swan took it after Brian krzanich pushed gelsinger out after he rescued it in the 2000s by developing the core series after the pentium 4 failed.
Brian krzanich fiddled because amd was on fire and he thought he could keep arm at bay. Bob swan didn't understand anything so he just cranked they buybacks.
It's a nightmare, and it's just getting worse, their engineering management went to hell because internal politics beat everything else.
It actually has, but this is more public while their long term forecast is really dark.
If they cut costs more they should be fine, they're basically in a similar place as amd but with no consoles but more defense and government contracts. Also they lost this round of hyperscalers which might be one of the last.
Amd is better off because they started in a bad place (piledriver) and have done an incredible job fighting their way back to the top, so their overheads are lower.
This happened before, IBM sold global foundries to amd, who used it till they went broke and spun glofo off.
They had problems keeping up on tech, but they did spin a ton of defense silicon happily.
Intel fabs unleashed could be a second path, right now I would probably not consider a tape out to anyone other than tsmc, or maybe Samsung, but Intel might be an option.
The only issue is: I think they'd probably be assholes, I suspect they used to be to their internal customers, that's why things like their fovea chiplets got caught for a decade in their internal politics during knights landing.
Tsmc are good to work with, you trust them and they try to make sure your design will work. Intel would have a lot of work on the libraries and other stuff (which they should have done more on with the altera integration) before I'd trust them to handle my design.
The smart move would be to work with some clients to generate portability libraries for their IP to make it easier to come over from tsmc.
Anand la shimpi, the founder, left almost a decade ago, and that seems to have weakened it a good bit, then we got YouTube channels like GN and we just blast them into out feeds quickly because we don't care about the specific numbers as much as a broad brush.
I remember 20 years ago when performance really, really mattered, but now things are so fast it's a difference you can't always easily see unless you're trying to run over 4k and the game is jokingly badly optimized.
The whole problem is that every piece of technology China gets is immediately used by the CCP to enslave them better, it's why they revolutionized omni-surveillance, tracking and biometrics, and their first and strongest application for AI was monitoring their population for anything they consider threatening to their control (ie freedom).
It's why everyone hates China and wants to see them fail horribly, but don't hate India in the same way as they're nominally democratic.
Don't support genocidal fascists and cry like they're the underdog, nobody in history killed more Chinese than the CCP, not even Genghis Khan.
Yeah wrf was that? Even the risc64 visionfive2 used usbpd properly.
It's 2024 and we live in a society.
Is that a show or something? Sounds like one of the old PBS ones I saw 20 years ago or so.
You could say total die size, but you wouldn't say die, that implies a single cut exposure of silicon.
But agreed, Apple just took all the tricks Intel dabbled with and turned them to 11, Intel was always too cheap because they had crazy volumes (and once upon a time had a good process) and there was no point.