K4mpfie

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[–] K4mpfie@lemmy.ml 44 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] K4mpfie@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago

If you are brave and have time: Wine

[–] K4mpfie@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Running Fedora as a secondary OS from a Thunderbolt SSD. What I can tell you is that my Bios still seems to be in charge (pun intended) of the charging cycles since it wouldn't charge past 80% and I never set this in Fedora.

Otherwise runtime seems about average under use and the estimated time left on the charge seems correct.

[–] K4mpfie@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago

I was installing on an external ssd. So basically a live bootable ssd

[–] K4mpfie@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I am tempted to say I would try to configure that but looking at the (rightful) backlash I got so far I will stay away from that for now.

[–] K4mpfie@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Did you though? What instructions began with "Install VirtualBox"?

None 🙈 I just assumed I could replace the USB I would need for a live media.

Did you even try just booting the ISO directly?

I was under the impression just slapping the ISO onto the USB and trying to run from the boot menu selector would not work.

[–] K4mpfie@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Nono I was going for a multi boot portable install.

The T7 is an external SSD. I got Ventoy to work on the T7 with Fedora (also with Tails), I just couldn't get the persistence to work for Fedora too. I think that's where I took a wrong turn. Instead of trying to figure out how to get that "selinux=0" command to work for Fedora, I should have properly reassessed my goal and started from scratch. I kinda fell victim to the sunk cost fallacy.

[–] K4mpfie@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Um. multiple Linux OS's?

I fcked up with the terminology there. Should be Distro's 🙈

Using VMs to what? Why?

I thought I could take the ISO, run it as a live media from the VM and then install the Distro onto the SSD using the media creation tool that pop's up first thing after starting it. That's at least how I remembered doing it back in the day for the Ubuntu sticks I created back in school

My friend - you took the hard path here for somebody not "technical enough for Arch". Dual-booting is tricky to begin with nevermind doing so with Windows and external media involved.

When I started in October I had the innocent belief I could just read through the documentation and I could get it to work.

[–] K4mpfie@lemmy.ml -3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I expected some difficulty but I didn't expect that creating a drive with two distros and a third partition for file storage to be this difficult. Even if we shave it down to my current goal (one Distro and a file storage partition) I have more trouble than I would expect the average user to bare.

[–] K4mpfie@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I'll wait till Tuesday. Thank you for the heads up! The reason I choose to use a VM over a live USB is because I just don't have another 16GB USB lying around that works for Linux. I honestly didn't know that the ISO in the VM would behave so differently. Is that simply a limitation of the Distro or is this intentional?

[–] K4mpfie@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 months ago

• I explicitly wanted to not have yet another USB. I still think Whonix will work will be enough for what I need :) • Can't fully commit to Linux yet. I still need Windows for work. • Thank you for the advice :)

[–] K4mpfie@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well I was thinking I was doing it when I installed Fedora through the Fedora Media writer 😅 The Grub rabbit hole really just came after I tried to figure out how I could get that boot option to work that Ventoy required

 

Back in October I bought myself a new shiny SSD to finally make the first step of leaving behind Windows.

After enquiring about which Distro to use, I settled on Fedora after being fed up with using Ubuntu in the past and feeling not close to technically skilled enough to use Arch.

The original plan was to have the SSD hold multiple Linux OS as well as a common storage that can be accessed from Windows as well as these distros.

Since I wanted to be able to dual boot multiple OS (Fedora & Tails) I choose Ventoy … Well chose is a strong word. It’s the only software for dual booting that still seems to be maintained.

While reading up on Ventoy I hit my fist snag. Ventoy does not support persistence in Tails. “Okay whatever I can deal with that later as long as I am able to store some file on common folder I’m fine” However dear reader who knows about partitioning, you will know that we are running out of space on the partition table with Ventoy, Tails and Fedora each taking up space. Once again I thought “okay whatever, I can figure that out later” and moved on to Fedora.

Now, running Fedora without persistence through Ventoy is no issue, but as soon you want persistence it gets tricky. See, Fedora cannot just with run persistence off Ventoy. It needs a boot option edited. How this is accomplished? No one even in the Ventoy Forum could tell me. and I felt waaay in over my head when I started reading up on Grub and how to edit the Bootloader files I find somewhere while digging through the ISO with 7zip. So I started reading up what this “selinux” option even is and found out that, I should probably not disable it. to begin with.

“Oookay” I thought slightly desperate, “I guess Ventoy is off the table” Luckily, a few weeks later, I found out about Whonix. Thus, a new play formed in my head: Ditch Ventoy and Tails, part the SSD to make it usable as a normal file storage and keep the other partition with persistent Fedora with Whonix. “Okay, that seems already waaay easier. I installed Ubuntu before from a VM to USB Sticks for school, I can do the same with Fedora. I’m basically already on the finishing straight”

Well no. Turns out, running a VM comes with its own snags. Like how VMware really is only working great if you buy a licence or the fact that Virtualbx automatically set’s the USB Standard of each VM to USB 2.0 meaning you will need to reboot the live OS to make the SSD running under 3.0 visible for installation. There goes another 20 minutes down the drain.

After fiddling around with the partition manager in Fedora and reading up on the documentation surrounding this issue (and finding out that it is more than 15(!) Version behind the current setup (it was a nice read tho)) another slap happened, to my already failing believe that this project would work out. Partitioning the SSD with a home, boot, swap and EFI System Partition, can leave enough space on the Disk but no extra space on the partition table.
“Well, guess I have to mount a LVM Partiton somewhere” I thought and moved on in the hope to at least get Fedora finally running on the SSD. But alas, my BIOS just decided to throw the most generic error ever.

Upon searching the web I found about this bug which apparently has been open since Fedora 37. So on the chance of me having said issue because of this bug, I got Fedora 36 and repeated the steps of creating a VM (don’t forget about that USB2 issue, or you will lose 20 minutes again) and installing it on the SSD. Presumably because I have an unmaintained version of Fedora which is 3 version behind the current one, installing Fedora on the SSD took more than an hour. (opposed to the 30 minutes it took me with 38.)

And after all that hassle? Still nothing. I still get that Bios Error and I still can’t run Fedora, and I have to say I’m sick and tired of it. I’m not a complete idiot (in most ways of life) but I cannot for the love of me figure out how I will ever get this to work. Or how the average user (who, let’s assume for the sake of my argument, is also not a complete idiot) is supposed to make this work. The hoops I jumped through, the hours of time wasted waiting for a status bar to update, the time spent googling and reading up on seemingly obscure issues, no average user wants to do this. It’s utopian to assume “oh users will just switch if Microsoft just does this or that stupid thing”. Whatever will happen, these users will not come in troves to Linux. This experience, which I can only describe as “running blind through a mirror maze” is masochistic. And I can’t do it any more. Maybe six months down the road, when brain damage finally has me forgotten the headache this journey has caused, I will pick this project up again. For now, I just really needed to write this rant, or I fear this day spent troubleshooting was for nothing.

Edit: Thank you to everybody for reading through my, I gotta say now, quite ignorant, post. Also thank you to most posters. Most comments were quite helpful and kind.

A few things that I might not have explained the best way.

The goal of the project was threefold:

•Have a removable drive with Linux on to slowly ease myself into this new OS while still having Windows as a fallback on the laptop

•Have it also work as a normal storage drive in the windows environment. (preferably without seeing any Linux folders in Window explorer)

•Have some kind of secure privacy option available to browse Anna's archive for ebooks.

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