LeFantome

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[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Windows is a platform for Office. Linux is not a supported platform for Office. Most businesses will not migrate their desktops off Windows because they will not migrate their workforce off Office.

Beyond that, Windows is not as important to Microsoft as it used to be. The real money makers are Azure and Office. With Azure, they do not care if you run Linux. They even have their own distro ( Azure Linux — previously CBL Mariner ).

Azure is the future ( even for Office ).

Since Windows is less strategic, Microsoft is looking to milk it as a cash cow while they can. So, Product Management is tasked with finding new ways to monetize it. Data is worth a lot of money. The best way to farm data from users these days is to frame it as security ( or AI ).

Expect a lot more SIngle Sign On. Expect a lot more AI. Expect a lot more cloud integration. Expect all of these to focus on data harvesting.

A bit later, expect “services” for Linux that attempt the same. Like Google on Android. This is harder though as Windows does not have monopoly control over Linux as a platform. I am sure they are having many meetings about how to change that.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

When it takes 5 days to boot, you don’t have time to wait for IF statements

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

So you don’t support Wayland yet?

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Newer kernel matters and can actually make the distro more new user friendly for sure.

Newer packages as well which prevents you from having to find newer versions in PPAs and other places. In my view, this makes a distro less stable and harder to maintain.

In fact, I think Arch can be more stable than Ubuntu precisely because Arch users hardly ever have to look beyond the repos. I think Arch users really less on Flatpak for the same reason. In theory the AUR is no different than a PPA but it causes way fewer problems in practice ( especially conflicts ). There is something about APT as well that handles conflicts by removing stuff ( stuff you may really need ). Pacman and dnf do not seem to do that.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The loudest and most negative voices are always consumers, not contributors. They just saw the word “request”.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Video gets higher engagement. If you want your information to be consumed, video is a better bet.

That will not stop every video from having a top comment complaining about it though.

I prefer written content myself. But, as you say, I am happy for content in whatever form I can get it. I did not pay for it. How it is generated and shared is not up to me.

Soon I hope, we will have a bot that transcribes every video. Then that can be the top comment instead of the endless complaining.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree with you that using what other “normal” people are using has a lot of value and Ubuntu is still the most popular distro by far ( even I do not like it ).

I think both Fedora and Mint are popular enough as well and a better base than Ubuntu. But that said, Ubuntu is fine.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

I like the idea of a stable distro as the host OS and Distrobox with Arch and the AUR for applications.

For most of my machines, I do not need the latest kernel or even the latest desktop environment. But it is a pain to have out of date desktop apps and especially dev tools.

I think this strikes a nice balance.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 28 points 1 year ago

Imagine how much less would get done overall and how many fewer people would participate if we did not let people work on what they wanted to work on.

The only choice left would be to contribute or not and more people would choose not to contribute (probably the choice you have made).

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I thought there were two units working now ( maybe not everything ). One Lenovo and one Asus if I recall.

EDIT:

ASUS Vivobook S15 & Lenovo Yoga Slim7x

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-6.11-SoC-Platforms

6.11 is released now.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I will just say that SUSE 4.2 was not built off the same base as SUSE 1.0 either. It is not going to be as clear cut as finding a cloned Red Hat source code repository.

SUSE 4.2 was really version 1.0 of the distribution we call OpenSuse today ). It was a reboot. This version was no longer based on Slackware and it was the first version using RPM.

Debian introduced packages in 1995 ( before Debian 1.0 ). RPM did not appear until Red Hat Linux 2.0 in the fall. SUSE 4.2 came out in 1996 and could have used either one.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was not trying to cause any offence. Mad respect for SUSE. As I hinted, I was simplifying. It is hard to talk about this stuff both accurately and concisely.

SUSE is certainly not a Fedora “fork” as Fedora Core was not even conceived until considerably later. Neither was OpenSUSE really. So you cannot take my first comment too literally.

Let’s remember how early SUSE was in the Linux timeline. Back then, everybody was downloading their software from the same FTP sites. A huge component of what made a Linux distribution different from an FTP repo was the package manager and those came from Red Hat or Debian.

The provenance of SUSE is also a bit complicated as the first versions were explicitly based on Slackware. Starting with 4.2 ( a made up version number meant as a nod to Douglas Adam’s I think ), SUSE became Jurix + RPM. So it is a Jurix fork in that sense. However, I cannot imagine more than a handful of people ever used Jurix. I would be interested to know the numbers. In contrast, in terms of both users and industry awareness, Red Hat was THE Linux distro back then.

Red Hat was certainly an influence on SUSE beyond the source code. Red Hat and SUSE were not just communities or collections of code. Red Hat and SUSE were two of the earliest company backed distros. Both had clear commercial ambition. It is no accident that they both evolved into explicitly “enterprise” subscription products flanked by explicitly community distros. SUSE and Red Hat were more like each other than they were like other Linux players ( especially in the days before Ubuntu ). It is not far wrong I think to think of SUSE as the Red Hat of Europe with Red Hat attracting American infrastructure giants like Oracle and SUSE becoming the platform for big European players like SAP.

SUSE is not a fork in the sense that we are going to find an import into the source code version control system from Red Hat ( other than RPM itself of course ). Again though, we should note that this is not how stuff worked back then ( see comment about FTP sites ).

RPM could have been a purely technical choice for SUSE but, in my view, they had a clear desire to use Red Hat as a template more broadly. That is what I meant by saying SUSE could be seen as a fork while also acknowledging that the statement is not quite fair ( or perhaps more that it is not technically accurate in the strictest sense of what the work fork means even if it instructive as a historical perspective ).

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