LeFantome

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[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

Windows XP was introduced 20 years after the sale of the first IBM PC in 1981.

It has one been 23 years since then!

Things certainly changed a lot more before than after.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You might be surprised. First, I run EndeavourOS daily on a 2008 iMac and it not only runs but is very useful. I browse the web, watch YouTube, video conference, create office docs, play older games, do basic programming, run Docker ( well, Podman ), watch movies, read ebooks, edit audio, etc. With EOS, all my software versions are up to the minute.

The reason I use that machine so much is because of where it is. I like that spot. The reason I have not put something else there is precisely because it works so well that I have no reason to. I use XFCE to keep it light and have to restart the web browser from time-to-time to free up RAM but it is fine.

The first 64 bit Intel chips were in 2007 but AMD released the K8 way back in 2003. I do not have one to try but my guess is I could install the most recent EndeavourOS on such a machine.

That gets us to 21 years ago pretty easily.

You would be amazed at the upgradability of older hardware. You can drop 16 GB of RAM and an SSD in a 2009 MacBook.

However, you can run a 100% modern Linux distro on hardware much older than that. Many distros, including Debian, have 32 bit versions that support Pentium Pro and up. Most software available in regular Debian is also available in the 32 bit versions. The package release numbers are the same. So, totally up to date and modern software. You can run Debian 12 on 32 bit processors.

That takes us all the way back to hardware from 1995! That is just 14 years after the first IBM PC!

In practice, the biggest problem is going to be RAM. Anything below 6 GB for 64 bit and 4 GB for 32 bit is going to struggle with the size of modern software ( especially web browsers! ).

I am not sure how far back you have to go before the processor is just too slow for everyday stuff. I would guess around 2003 or so, depending on what you are doing.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

.NET 4.0 runs on XP and it is still very easy to create a .NET 4.0 application on a more modern machine. A well tested .NET app will deploy and run on Windows XP with few surprises. You cannot ask for better tooling. So, I would not say that creating new software for XP is really all that hard.

If you want to be much cooler but put in more work, check this out!

https://github.com/rust9x/rust/wiki

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 10 points 10 months ago

Plus, you can actually install Windows 11 on the same hardware as Windows 10 pretty easily. Microsoft just does not want you to.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago

Given the break-neck pace of development, I am sure the ReactOS folks will be ready.

https://reactos.org/

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You may be pretty heavily discounting the influence of gravity.

I do not think that risk of collision based on current trajectory is the only thing to consider.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

PiHole blocks the current ads. Hopefully these new ones too.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

Distrobox is no more layers than Flatpak. Do you know how containers work? You are basically running processes directly on the host kernel ( so no performance loss except you lie to them about being in a sandbox. Distrobox has even less in the middle as you can see your other processss, host file system, networking, etc.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The whole point of Distrobox is the you want access to the package manager ( well, the packages ) of a different distribution.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

EndeavourOS is Plasma based now

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

Is there an oddlama installer for Void? My least favourite thing about Void is the installer.

When I search for oddlama, all I find is Gentoo which seems to go better with your comment.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

Arch and EndeavourOS are the same once installed. EndeavourOS just helps get your system setup and fully configured more quickly.

Nothing wrong with experimenting though of that is something you enjoy.

I used Fedora for many years and liked it but it was years ago now. I have used Arch. I mostly use EndeavourOS these days.

My “play” installation is Chimera Linux. I want to check-out VanillaOS and LMDE. I have thought about trying Fedora ( or maybe Nobara ) again.

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