I cannot wait until this lands in most distros. So much of the Wayland noise will go away.
LeFantome
joined 2 years ago
Let’s all use the WindowServer from SerenityOS!
I used Manjaro and did not experience at all that it was more stable. For one thing, the packages do not get changed, just delayed. You are just as bleeding edge just not as current. The delay caused wrong packages to be installed, or unable to be installed, from the AUR sometimes. Also, mostly for governance reasons, Manjaro just plain broke more often than Arch.
EndeavourOS just is Arch once it is installed ( especially if you remove eos-hooks which is what makes EOS report as EOS ). Everything on your system ( including the kernel ) comes from the Arch repos. Even the “unique” EOS configuration choices like dracut and systemd-boot come from the Arch repos. EOS adds a handful of optional utilities on top of Arch ( that you may never use ), some theming, and enables the AUR by default ( by installing yay and paru ). Of course, lots is people use these in Arch too.
Well, dracut and systemd-boot both come from the Arch repos. So, I would hope the Arch wiki can handle them ( and in my experience it does ).
How would Arch have implemented the default installer within Arch itself?
I would argue that EOS in fact did work within Arch as they use the entire Arch repo system ( including even the kernel ). EOS adds a few utilities some of which are not even unique to EOS ( like yay and paru ).
EOS has become more opinionated about the install such as using Dracut and systemd-boot but even those come from the Arch repos.
The other thing that EOS brings is the much friendlier community.
Once installed, EndeavourOS is literally just Arch except for perhaps a couple of optional utilities and some theming. Even the kernel is the same. So you think Arch is crap btw?
More recent EOS installs do use Dracut. So, I guess there is one difference now ( unless you use dracut on Arch ).
I do not mind the look of Manjaro. That is not my issue with it.
I am fine with OnlyOffice as well. It is OpenOffice that nobody should use ( it is literally just an ancient version of LibreOffice at this point ).
So, other than saying Arch is crap, none of your opinions from that post are unpopular with me.
EOS uses the Arch repos. So, EOS and Arch got KDE 6 together since whatever is in the Arch repos hits them both at the same time.
With most of the big distros defaulting to Wayland and NVIDIA finally under control, I expect most new installs will be Wayland ( and stay Wayland ) by the end of the year. So the Linux noon numbers may be 90%. I would be surprised if Wayland does not hit 80% overall by the time we hit 2026.
Swing and a miss! Well, I can take solace in the fact that 99.9% of the packages you are using are in EndeavourOS too. So, I was mostly right. :)
I also wish we could replace Manjaro with a green themed EndeavourOS. So many people could be saved the pain. Manjaro is the next biggest Linux honeypot after OpenOffice ( which exists only to ruin the experience for people that should have used LibreOffice instead ).
Converting Manjaro to Arch in place is a labour of love. I have done it myself and it is was more steps than I expected it to be. Worth it though. Good friend.
How are you enjoying EndeavourOS?
If you have NVIDIA, wait until the explicit sync stuff makes it to your distro. Otherwise, go for it!