Sauerkrauts, I request that instead of downvoting like cowards you crash out in the comments about how "death to imperial core countries" is actually the real genocide.
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As long as there is colonialism there will be violent resistance. This violence as well as the initial violence of the colonizers is the fault of the colonizers.
I'm sure some innocent Germans were killed during WW2 by resistance fighters, but the reason it happened was because of the actions of Germany. Without the colonization, it would not have happened and if you focus on it to condemn the resistance fighters then people will correctly identify you as a nazi.
Like the nazis who make those arguments about WW2, you are attempting to justify your opposition to resistance and therefore your support of genocide.
Still an ableist, still a racist, Death to “Israel”, death to Europe, death to empire, death to colonialism, free Palestine.
Ignoring your inability to tell the difference between "death to a political entity" and "death to the entire population", very funny that you think "death to empire" and "death to colonialism" are "genocidal". Oh no, won't someone think of the poor white people colonizing, stealing, and committing genocide?
free Palestine
At least in this we agree, I guess.
You can keep lying to yourself.
I asked you as a hypothetical. It was meant to verify the cause for your gross historical ignorance and genocidal tendencies.
lmao, weak deflection. You assumed I was "bad" because of a mental disability as a hypothetical. There's a word for that, it's "ableism", the same as if you had hypothetically asked if I was the r-slur (because it means the same thing as an insult).
I'm not reading all that. Death to "Israel", death to Europe, death to empire, death to colonialism, free Palestine.
You do that a lot, don’t you? Imagine things about people you disagree with and then assume they’re true.
I don't need to imagine, you called me "a disabled person" as an insult. That's exactly as bad as using the r-slur because it's literally the same thing.
I'm imagining third parties? You just stated that Palestinians are Israelis, mate. To the Israelis (and their nation), Palestinians are the third party (and the other way around).
Shut up, lmao. I'm tired of dealing with your colonizer ignorance. Several people have explained to you several times how and why you are wrong and it's clear that your racist condescending European colonial attitude makes it impossible for you to actually grasp the reality of colonialism and therefore the reality of "Israel".
40 years ago you would have been crying about how "the Blacks" want to commit genocide against the white South Africans and denying that they were colonizers too. Before you cry about how you "didn't say that", that's what's called a "hypothetical". It's meant to demonstrate your gross racism in a way that's easier for you to understand, because the two situations are the same but everyone today knows that the South African example would be obviously racist.
Hamas' stated eradication of Israel = genocide.
Go read the 2017 charter instead of assuming the people you think are below you match the caricature you have of them in your head.
It's extremely telling that you read this:
All violence in a settler colony, including the violence perpetrated by and against the colonizers, is the fault of the colonizers.
And concluded that it meant "every 'Israeli' who died deserved it". It actually meant "some of them didn't deserve to die, but their deaths are still the fault of 'Israel' because it's a colonial project that cause this to happen".
This conflict really brings out the worst in some people. On the one hand, they blame the murder of innocent people on colonialism, and on the other, on the alleged human shield tactic.
Yeah, it did happen because of colonialism. It's also extremely telling that you present these statements as equivalent, as if "'Israel' is a settler colony" and "Hamas use human shields" are equally valid statements. The first is a very basic, correct analysis of the nature of the state, which the most important early zionists (such as Herzl and Ben Gurion) not only agreed with but were proud of. The second is a racist lie designed to try to excuse genocide.
"Israel" literally uses human shields, by the way. They have actually tied human beings to the front of their vehicles in the past.
I wouldn’t use the term “offended”… I think “amused” is better fitting, the same I would feel about a conflict in the “Kleingartenverein”
the german wants everyone to know how NOT MAD they are
You could use an instance that federates widely (such as lemmy.zip) if you want to be able to interact with as many communities as possible.
I’m sorry, are you a disabled person? Or did you forget the point you guys were trying to make?
Damn, I can really feel how tempted you were to use the r-slur there. Not surprising that a zionist and a colonialist would also be an ableist.
Your examples are advocating for my approach of punishing the leadership and giving the people a fresh start.
My examples are advocating for decolonization done by the people there (Palestinians). You're the one imagining "third parties".
All violence in a settler colony, including the violence perpetrated by and against the colonizers, is the fault of the colonizers.
They should kill the fucking IDF. But not kids at a music festival or random civilians.
You're right, they should be given:
- advanced military technology and intelligence data
- ways to openly organize without being killed by Mossad, Shin Bet, and the IOF
- perfect control over every person who happens to pick up a gun during any of their operations
to make sure they can more efficiently kill only soldiers.
Since we're wishing for things, I also wish every "Israeli" genocide supporter would just disappear without the resistance having to do anything.
What’s wrong with calling Hamas terrorists? They have randomly but deliberately killed innocent people. How else would you describe that?
- You, calling the resistance to zionism "terrorists".
It takes a lot of restraint to not just respond with "hell yeah I support the white genocide", but I don't want to read a thousand "see, you're genocidal" smug replies from people who think white genocide is real.