Merci pour le repost :)
Libb
joined 1 year ago
Took my first steps last night, I flashed a USB stick with Mint Cinnamon and gave it a spin.
Happily using Mint myself, welcome onboard ;)
Bonjour tout le monde,
J'espère ne pas me planter en postant ici, j'ai cherché partout et j'ai pas trouvé mieux (impossible de poster quoi que ce soit dans le thread création de communauté) :)
Je ne souhaite pas devenir admin ou modo, ni quoi que ce soit de ce genre mais je risque de le devenir et du coup j'ai une question. Plus exactement, un utilisateur m'amène à me poser cette question. Je vous explique, c'est pas long:
je te tente de redynamiser une communauté anglophone dédiée au journaling qui semble... mort-née, qui n'est pas hébergée sur Jlailu. Dans une autre discussion où je mentionne ma tentative, l'utilisateur en question me fait justement remarquer que si je ne suis pas admin je ne pourrais pas virer les trolls potentiels et que donc, le plus simple serait peut-être de créer une nouvelle communauté vu que son admin actuel semble AFK depuis un bon moment.
Bref, je viens de poser la question sur la communauté Journaling pour avoir j'espère l'avis de tout tout le monde mais je voulais aussi vous demander votre opinion:
Si je devais créer cette nouvelle communauté, qui serait en anglais, est-ce que ce serait OK de la créer sur Jlailu?
Ou alors si vous avez des suggestions plus adaptées, je suis tout ouïe! Je dois vous dire que j'ai jamais envisagé de devenir admin, du coup si je peux rester un simple participant tout en tentant de ranimer cette petite communauté, je ne me sentirais pas 'dévalorisé' le moins du monde de pas avoir le tag 'admin' :p
Merci de m'avoir lu et toutes mes excuses si je suis complètement hors sujet. (et au fait, merci beaucoup aussi pour Jlailu, ça non plus j'ai pas encore eut l'opportunité de vous le dire: c'est sympa ici)
+1 to replace TM with BTW (and to remove the version numbers, too) :p
The rest of that blog post summaries with a lot more technical knowledge than I will probably ever have the reason why I chose not to go with Tuxedo when I switched to a Linux laptop, after 35 years being an Apple user.
Back then, I had no idea about upstream, sharing of source code or those tech stuff mentioned in the blog post. I'm no dev, I am barely interested in my computer as a 50+ user that was looking for a laptop I could fix/upgrade (I decided I was done with Apple the day I realized all their machines were no more fixable/upgrdable), a machine I would truly and fully own.
Since I was interested in two of Tuxedo's machines but not at all in their own version of Linux, I started digging around their website to find more info about using their laptops and drivers/apps with any other distro and I ended up with more confusion and questions than I had to begin with. Once again, that's coming from a non-expert user, no doubt someone else would have had better results, but still not the best experience.
Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty sure Tuxedo makes a nice OS that does its job well, it's just that I did not care about it. I already knew which distro I wanted to use and it was not theirs.
So, since I could not understand enough I gave up on their laptop altogether and simply purchased a used PC laptop I knew would be working fine with Linux and installed my distro of choice on it. So far, I have zero regrets even though I would have liked to buy one of those Tuxedo machines with their great/bright screen ;)
I've seen lmde mentioned on Mint website but if I recall correctly they also presented it like a somewhat experimental version?
- Debian + Xfce on the desktop, because it (mostly, see below) just works, it's snappy, reliable, and I don't need my apps being constantly updated (I have very simple needs and use cases)
- Mint + Cinnamon on the laptop, because it's still debian-based and because unlike Debian, Mint was able to connect my AirPods out of the box and I use them a lot when on the laptop... I also quickly learned to appreciate Cinnamon, I must say.
edit: typos
Imho, the best way to help a beginner should have happened many years before they put their hands on any Linux distro. It should have happened when they were still a small child, at school. In the way they were taught how to... learn and how to get better... aka, by expecting difficulties and by expecting to fail, often.
Failing should be expected as a beginner learning anything new. Like, say, we all learned to walk as toddlers. It was not by being told we walked perfectly but by falling on our diapered butt. Failing at outing one foot in front of the other and falling, over and over again.
That sounds obvious but, to my old eyes at the very least, it also sounds almost like an heresy when compared to what I see kids being taught nowadays. That things should be frictionless and that nobody should fail at anything, ever. That's such a poor choice that doesn't prepare them much. Well, imho.
When I switched (from 35+ years being an Apple user) to Linux, it was frustrating.
Even when where things went smooth, it could still be frustrating and it often was. If only, because it required me to change 35 years old habits. And when it wasn't going smooth, even when I was using the best docs and guides, at times it could be incredibly and utterly frustrating, when not completely maddening. Either nothing on my machine was ever exactly like described in the doc, or the app version was different and some setting had changed, or my issue was a somewhat different, or the solution simply did not work, or I missed a tiny detail or a word somewhere in the guide. Whatever. Frustration was a constant.
That's what people should be taught to expect and to be fine with. And not just with Linux, btw ;)
like for example, one time i was browsing through some neofetch screenshots and i found out that a lot of them have anime or furry stuff as their wallpaper or profile picture, but they use linux.
younger me would’ve freaked out by the idea of having proprietary files, but i still enjoy linux. what do you think?? please
What should they use in order to not freak younger you? A screenshot of some lines from the kernel source code? A picture of Stallman and Torvalds tenderly embracing (quite unlikely)?
On my Debian and Mint computers, I have countryside pictures (I live in Paris, I miss seeing some real country landscape, mind you) and paintings (oil and watercolors, all works I admire) and some illustrations (comics, manga, whatever I appreciate enough to be wanting to look at it from time to time).
Sorry for younger you but I don't have a single image related to Linux nor to GNU philosophy, no matter how much I appreciate them.
freaked out by the idea of having proprietary files
I would suggest you read a little more about what the four essential freedoms are and how they relate to code and the user rights, not so much to do with art and wallpaper choice.
I understand. Maybe two things to consider:
- It will depends how you installed your apps, but I have file containing a fe useful instruction in case I need to reinstall my system, one of them is just a 'sudo apt install followed by the name of every single app I want to use'. I only need to copy and paste in a next terminal window to gat all my apps installed. All except the few that I don't install using apt, say the few appimages I also use. For me it means three more apps, so it's no big deal to download them by hand ;)
- Most user settings and configuration should be stored somewhere in you home folder (for example, I know there many settings stored in the .config folders, others (related to the system and the DE you're using maybe stored somewhere in .local, all my custom fonts are stored in ./fonts, and so on. I'm sorry, I'm no expert so I'm not very precise). All of that to say: by baking up your home, you probably also are backing up a lot of your configuration and tweaks.
I have no idea how those settings are portable between two completely different distros, but I have once reinstalled my system and got most of my settings instantly back just by copying my home folder over to that fresh install. That plus the single line 'sudo apt list-of-all-my-apps' I was almost completely operational in mere minutes, including all my customer menus, panels, text size, themes,... The one thing I remember not working from that backup was my SSH keys. No idea why.
Wow. I hate that.
Well, it's not like Debian hides it in any way or form. Quite the contrary.
It’s positively terrible but it explains so much.
Depends what you're looking for in your distro. I love that stability and lack of updates outside of security issues.
And worst of all, I am in far too deep to switch distros at this point.
May I ask why you don't think you can change distro? It's just a matter of installing Linux (which takes a few minutes) and, if it's not done already, of backing up your personal files and settings (most of them probably in your home folder, already).
Merci pour la suggestion. Effectivement, c'est une possibilité qui a la mérite d'être simple et... similaire à ce que j'avais ne tête au départ: je ne comptais pas du tout modérer quoi que ce soit, j'avais bêtement envie de tenter de donner une chance à cette communauté parce que le sujet me botte.
Mais, ce qui m'inquiète un peu si je fais ça, c'est que je risque de poster des trucs sur une communauté pour ensuite devoir tout reposter ailleurs... Sans savoir ce qu'on risque de perdre dans le déménagement (ni même si c'est facile à faire).
Pour le coup, c'est un peu con mais je me sens un peu perdu: je suis pas vraiment un pro de ce genre de choses et je ne voudrais pas ma lancer dans un truc que je ne serais pas capable de gérer correctement. Je vais voir si l'admin de la communauté se manifeste, ou pas...