PetDinosaurs

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Are you responding to my post or one you made up? You seem to be putting a lot of words in my mouth.

Of course I mean clade. Of course humans are apes. Of course scientists say birds are dinosaurs. You even say that "no one is arguing that." And that's exactly how taxonomy works.

Scientists say "non avian dinosaurs" amazingly often. That statement doesn't make any sense unless birds are dinosaurs.

You seem to have stumbled on the fact that fish is not a useful term because you cannot come up with a consistent definition of fish that doesn't include beloved character actor Margo Martindale without excluding things that are obviously fish. It's the same with "tree".

You are correct that dinosaurs are not birds, but birds are dinosaurs in the same sense that you are a mammal.