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So the Taiwanese all desperately want to join the DPRC? Last I checked Taiwan was a sovereign nation. Capitalism has a foothold there but the British no longer rule there. Justifying imperialism with imperialism also doesn't magically make it okay

I'm genuinely apologizing because I'm only skimming this as I'm getting sleepy. and it's a lot to go through. I can tell you took effort so apologies.

Re: West also bad, at times worse

I know and I agree!

btw central planning is not unique to countries run by socialists. Highly concentrated capitalism also has central planning aspects, as do their governments in times of emergency. But it is, in that case, central planning for bourgeois interests.

And in the case of China, it is for CCP interests. Holding elections every now and then doesn't translate to the dictatorship of the proletariat as envisioned. By that logic, US democracy would be a dictatorship of the proletariat as well, since they hold elections every now and then.

This sounds like America-centrism

I do not consider america really federal, since there is massive power concentrated at the top. Same for other "federal" states like Germany

IMO, building support networks and communities is better than meeting in dark rooms and planning revolutions. Or what is your plan of action? (Genuinely asking)

It's not just one guy, the article cites several sources.

Those are some valid arguments actually. I guess some people do throw the term around too liberally (heh).

You mean the island where the fascist fled after they lost the Chinese civil war and now acts as a base of US military hegemony?

So what? Imperialism is suddenly okay if you don't like the ruling ideology there? That is the same logic underlying US imperialism, and coincidentally, fits the old definition of the word tankie.

What about Hong Kong?

You may recall protests being violently repressed.

Could you give us examples?

Many uighurs have been imprisoned for example.

Also your screenshot once again, just tries to prove China is awesome, because the US is bad. I'm not trying to compare the two.

What are you trying to prove to me? That China is perfect? I know you don't believe that.

I think I haven't made myself clear, I don't think the number is made up.

You think Russia Today accounts for the massive worldwide upswell in communist and anti-imperialist sentiment over the last few years

No? When did I say that? You seem to think I'm calling everybody here a tankie (or my definition thereof). I'm not.

as if anybody asked.

I was literally asked

Yeah man, it’s not the warmongering, the lies, the genocide, the complete capitalist destruction of any social fabric, hope for the future, international peace or survivable environment. It’s just the sinister Chinese and die Russich swine working to sow dissent among us

Jesus Christ I cannot make this any more clear, I am not saying that China or Russia are the top threats and that we need to save liberal democracy lmao. I criticize China, you immediately assume that I'm a liberal and your enemy. You argue in bad faith, pellet me with strawmen and make 100 assumptions about what you think my opinions are. Which is exactly the kind of behavior I'm talking about.

At least most of the other people replying to my comment were interesting to speak to and argued in good faith. I might learn something from them. I won't learn anything from you and you aren't interested in learning anything from me.

You have proven my point :)

True democracy is when a president has a 37% approval rating.

unironically funny lmao.

Yes I do agree with you.

it’s understandable why they have a high approval rate.

It is. I'm not saying the number is fake. I'm saying that the CCP does not make an effort to make its government transparent and emancipate its citizens so they can form cirtical opinions. Those in power hold all the tools to keep themselves in power.

You're implying that I'm the one setting up a strawman by claiming that people are acting a certain way. This is from my personal experience. I'm not accusing you or everyone here of being a tankie but it seems like everybody here identifies as one. Maybe we have a different definition of the word. I was trying to clarify my definition.

You’d prefer to Balkanize China into a several million anarchist direct democracy communes? Or what? How would that work in 2024?

No, and I don't think any smart anarchist is advocating for some crazy revolution involving a coup or whatever. I advocate for building strong local communities, that are heavily interconnected. "Communes" as such are kind of impossible since most people live in cities anyway. We need to build resilient networks that can slowly replace oppressive centralized power. Personally I also don't subscribe to only 100% anarchism, my ideology is also influenced by socialism, syndicalism and marxism.