QuazarOmega

Outfits? What does it mean in this context?

Both features are important IMO, reproducibility is for being able to define certain aspects of your machine in a way that you can nuke it and, as long as you have its configuration (declarative for Nix, other implementations might have it as imperative), bring it back just how it was set up, without differences or breakages; while immutability is for being always confident that whatever* you do to your machine, you won't be able to break it because the root, which holds the functioning core of your system, can't be messed around with, NixOS has both I believe.

*not really "whatever", because there are still some ways to break, but you have to be very deliberate in doing it (think rm -rf /*), but in normal operation you won't just somehow install something or upgrade your packages and be left with an unusable system

I think ublue is the best incarnation of this style of "tweak forks", it meaningfully expands on the base, but still remains compatible with the original since you can just do a rebase from one of the original Fedora Atomic spins... which wouldn't have been possible without OSTree, so thanks, Fedora devs :)

I lowkey want this, it's like the system equivalent of the screen cat (btw does that exist but with Wayland support?)

lmaoo, please post that on !linuxmemes@lemmy.world too!

Seems it's been reported https://github.com/MHNightCat/superfile/issues/96a, and the PR to fix it looks like it was merged, so you should be able to run it soon

It sounds like it makes sense, but I'm not knowledgeable enough yet, I just found this as a maybe explanation https://flakehub.com/docs/faq#flake-versions I'd have to dig more in the rest of the ecosystem

I think a sensible progression is: nix + home-manager -> flakes -> develop -> nixOS

I can already see a good meme shaping up here, and I'm all for it XD
I really agree it might be the easiest way in, I'm already standing on the shoulders of giants having waited so long to start, so I guess I was lucky enough to skip the official docs

I'm honestly not sure how useful that flakehub

Me neither, I completely skipped over it, but it sounds interesting, maybe it wouldn't be as wonky as the AUR since it's Nix at least, idk

with barely no nix language knowledge I was able to roughly understand what’s going on

That's actually great! Maybe I'll try those as well, since sooner or later I'll have to learn the Nix language anyways and keeping a purer system is always a good thing if possible.

Good luck with devbox btw

edited: how tf did I end up ordering the text like that?

Actually I hadn't heard about nix develop, I came across Devbox pretty randomly

useless backstory

I remembered that I once saw a website Zero to Nix (on which I made a silly joke in the past on Reddit, but for the life of me can't seem to find so it's probably deleted) that said it would help learn the concepts of Nix, so I opened it just in case, then i saw that there was this FlakeHub banner on top that piqued my curiosity, I was like, is this a nod to Flathub: Then I saw this Fleek thing that sounded like Home Manager but more user friendly (?) Then I saw that it was deprecated so I was back to Home Manager(which in the end was easy enough anyway), but first I checked out their website that mentioned this Devbox thing

Between that and the rest, for the whole journey (that took surprisingly little time) I constantly jumped around from one website to another to piece together information and verify that it was accurate and up to date, to avoid messing up at least this one thing 😵‍💫

So, after I saw it, I went to look into it more and found that it's like a sort of nix shell for who is used to NPM and the like and I immediately wanted to try it out, because it just sounded like less mental burden then learning yet another thing, which was devenv as far as I got, which I found through these Reddit and Hacker News discussions.
So for now I feel right at ~~~~~ home with it.
In your experience, do you think using nix develop would slim things down without sacrificing too much comfort?

Finally got to it and I AM SO GIDDY RIGHT NOW!!!
I looked at your files to know what I should have expected, then, since I'm on Silverblue, I followed this guide https://julianhofer.eu/blog/01-silverblue-nix/ coupled with with Home Manager's Flake manual and finished off with installing Devbox (through Home Manager, which isn't listed as one of the official installation options for some reason), made a Python environment with it and... it's all looking good!
Declarative workflow, here I come 🤩 (and I can soon shelve all those rusty distroboxes that don't start anymore because Podman/Distrobox weirdnesses which have been all to frequent in my usage, yikes)

Thanks again! I probably wouldn't have taken the plunge so soon without your comment

I would love this so much, I looked around to see if anyone had opened an official issue for that yet, but I saw nothing on their Jira

Gotta love protected sex