Revilo62

You don't need a VPN to trick Plex. Exposing the web ui to the world will likely show traffic coming from your router, which is internal. If it doesn't, you may have to mess with some settings, but a VPN isn't required to access the web ui.

Jellyfin is also very limiting based on your users devices. There is no Jellyfin app for Samsung TVs (without sideloading) or Playstation. Users there are shit out of luck.

The thing you're failing to grasp is that Jellyfin is not nearly as simple as you're making it out to be. They both have trade offs. One or which being every single Jellyfin app is complete trash.

If Jellyfin works better for you fucking go for it, but claiming this is the death of Plex, Jellyfin is way easier, is laughable.

Yes you can. If you know what you're doing with networking, the Plex instance will have no idea whether you're remote or not. You can make every remote user look like they're internal to your network. Plex would have no way to stop that. They could incorporate more intense DRM, requiring things like same GPS location, but even that could likely be spoofed.

You can if you don't pay. The only thing they're blocking is traffic through their servers. If you expose the port to your local instance, they have no control over it. I'm not sure what about this is so difficult for you to understand.

You can still just forward a port. Just expose the web ui port to the world, the same way Jellyfin does. That's not recommended though, it has potential security issues. The recommended way would require a reverse proxy or tailscale. Then you're right back to the same issues no matter the service you're using.

It still works with internal streaming, and if you configure the networking correctly it won't know the difference. If you setup Tailscale, you can still do Plex remote streaming for free. You just can't rely on plex.tv to relay your connection automatically.

like you would with Plex

And that's the point I'm making. The work required to expose Jellyfin to the world is the same work to expose Plex. This change to Plex just charges for the relay servers, you can still do free remote streaming in the same way Jellyfin does. So if feels a bit ridiculous to claim Plex is dead and everyone should switch to Jellyfin, when Jellyfin isn't actually providing anything Plex doesn't still do for free.

I'll ask you the same question... What steps did you take to get it streaming outside of your house?

What steps did you take to get it streaming outside of your house?

That's another service that doesn't provide free remote streaming, not without setting up remote access in a way that would also work for Plex. So why is this the change that's making you leave Plex?

What's the alternative you're going with?

That's how I'm feeling about all these "TImE FoR evErYoNE tO swITCh To JElLyfiN" comments. You mean the program that also doesn't support this functionality out of the box?