Shdwdrgn

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[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Wonderful, and yet I'm not surprised...

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 30 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I still don't know why anyone USES linkedin. It was a shit company built by hacking Windows and sending out emails in other people's names to try to build their user base. The fact that Microsoft actually bought the company that hacked their operating system just shows how little moral value is present in any of this.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How much privacy do you have when someone has your account password?

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 50 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Gee are you implying that storing passwords in plaintext is a bad thing? /s

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

Who said anything about it being standard? I said I know this CAN happen, and I said it was quite some time ago. We can only hope this insanity isn't still in practice anywhere, but I learned long ago that expecting a corporation to NOT do foolish things will give me the same disappointing results as expecting money to come out of my ass. If there's a manager involved, then something on the tech side is going to get fucked up in the name of saving a buck. Therefore I cannot just assume OP gets a normal NAT address, nor can I assume they have any other firewall type device between them and the internet. With limited data, the best I can do is try and provide some general information, hopefully encourage them to ask more questions or provide more specific information, and just hope they don't have a ridiculously stupid ISP that makes things needlessly complicated.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

Most of my experience is with iptables, but yeah, I think until you start adding rules nothing is implicitly denied? Once you enable a couple of initial rules then you should have good blocking from the outside while allowing internal traffic to connect freely. It doesn't get in your way until you start using it, but then it doesn't take much to get it going.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You're right, it doesn't make any sense. And it didn't make any sense at the time either. After setting up the router with a laptop, I moved the connection to the firewall but it refused to connect. When I finally got ahold of tech support they said the connection locks into the first machine that logs in and they had to release it so I could connect the new machine. And just like that the firewall was given a routable IP address and connected to the internet. Stupidest thing I ever heard of, but that's how they were set up. Now this was around 15+ years ago and I would certainly hope nobody is doing that crap today, but apparently that was their brilliant method of limiting how many devices could get online at once.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

What are you talking about? You're assuming that every residential router is going to have some kind of firewall enabled by default (they don't). Sure, if OP has a router that provides a basic firewall type service then it will likely block all incoming unauthorized traffic. However OP is specifically talking about a linux-based firewall and hasn't specified if they have a router-based firewall service in place as well so we can only provide info on the firewall they specified. And if you look at UFW, the default configuration is to allow outgoing traffic and block all but a very few defined incoming ports.

You're also making the assumption that OP is using NAT, when that is not always the case for all ISPs. Some are really annoying with their setup in that they give a routable IP to the first computer that connects and don't allow any other connections (I had that setup once with Comcast). In this case, you wouldn't even need to define port-forwarding to get directly to OP's computer -- and any services they might be running. This particular scenario is especially dangerous for home computers and I really hope no legitimate ISP is still following a practice like this, however I don't take anything for granted.

Regardless of what other equipment OP has, UFW is going to provide FAR better defaults and configurability when compared to a residential router that is simply set up to create the fewest support calls to their ISP.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

Possibly? The way I read it, it sounded like OP wasn't really even sure what a firewall does.

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sure it CAN be configured, but the typical policy of firewalls is to start from a position of blocking everything. From what I've seen, on Linux the standard starting point is blocking all incoming and allowing all outgoing. On Windows the default seems to be blocking everything in both directions. Sure you could start with a policy of allowing everything and block only selected ports, but what good is that when you can't predict what ports an attacker might come from?

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 78 points 1 month ago (16 children)

You've got it backwards. A firewall blocks everything, then you open up the ports you want to use. A standard config would allow everything going out, and block everything coming in (unless you initiated that connection, then it is allowed).

So the question you should be asking, is what services do you think you're going to be running on your desktop that you plan to allow anyone on the internet to get to?

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 49 points 1 month ago

I've also read about the John Deere issue as a leading instigator of right-to-repair laws. They weren't able to provide authorized local repair techs when a tractor breaks down, so farmers were stuck waiting 1-2 weeks for someone to show up while crops were rotting in the fields (think of how fast your fresh fruit rots in your kitchen and then imagine dozens of fields of that crop going to waste). And the biggest insult was when the repair tech drove into town for a $5 part that the farmer had already identified but couldn't replace because of manufacturer lockouts.

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