SmartmanApps

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[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

Check a high school Maths textbook - even easier!

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

It's what is actually taught in high school, so there are those who remember and those who don't.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

You are correct with your definition - Terms are separated by operators and joined by grouping symbols - and it's consequently not ambiguous at all (using so-called "weak juxtaposition" breaks that rule).

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

enforce writing math without ambiguity

It already is written without ambiguity.

were taught in third grade

This is actually taught in Year 7 - the people who only remember the 3rd Grade version of the rules are the ones getting it wrong.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

There isn't ambiguity to begin with - just people who have forgotten the rules of Maths.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago

I wanted to compile a list of points that show as clear as humanity possible that there is no consensus here, even amongst experts

And I wrote a bunch of fact checks pointing out there is consensus amongst the actual experts - high school Maths teachers and textbook authors, the 2 groups who you completely ignored in your blog post.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

What’s especially wild to me is that even the position of “it’s ambiguous” gets almost as much pushback as trying to argue that one of them is universally correct.

That's because following the rules of Maths is universally correct.

arguing vehemently that implicit multiplication having precedence was correct and to do otherwise was wrong, full stop

He was using the wrong words, but he was correct - the actual rules are The Distributive Law and Terms ("implicit multiplication" is a rule made up by those who have forgotten these 2 rules).

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

Yes, unfortunately there are some bad teachers around. I vividly remember the one I had in Year 10, who literally didn't care if we did well or not. I got sick for an extended period that year, and got a tutor - my Maths improved when I had the tutor (someone who actually helped me to learn the material)!

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

why that’s actually ambiguous.

It isn't actually ambiguous. You have remembered what you were taught in school, unlike the author of the blog post, who manages to write the whole thing without ever once checking a Maths textbook (which would reveal the only correct answer to be 1).

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It treats division like a fraction

Which is why it gives the wrong answer.

Also you shouldn't be adding a dot between the 2 and the brackets - that also changes the answer.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

TI calcs give the wrong answer, and it's in their manual why - they only follow the Primary School rule ("inside the brackets"), not the High School rule which supersedes it (The Distributive Law).

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

It is a funny little bit of notational ambiguity

It's not ambiguous - it's The Distributive Law. You got the correct answer, you just forgot what the rule is called (as opposed to people who forget the rule altogether).

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