SmartmanApps

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[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You understand that gen x starts around 1965, right?

10 years earlier than that actually. Johnny Rotten, Billy Idol, etc. The U.S. came late to the party and started using their own definition.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This kind of problem falls under “communicating badly and acting smug when misunderstood”.

No it doesn't. It falls under adults forgetting the rules of Maths.

Use parenthesis and the problem goes away

There is no problem, other than adults who have forgotten the rules.

You might be smart

Smart-arse more like. A serial troll who doesn't actually know what they're talking about.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And that’s why people don’t write equations like that

Says someone who clearly hasn't looked in any Maths textbooks

If you wrote 6 + 4 / 2 in a paper you’d get reviewers complaining that it’s ambiguous

Only if their Maths was very poor. #MathsIsNeverAmbiguous

Working mathematicians never came up with PEMDAS

Yes they did.

which disambiguates it without parenthesis

It was never ambiguous to begin with.

Noone else does it that way

Says someone who has never looked in a non-U.S. Maths textbooks - BIDMAS, BODMAS, BEDMAS, all textbooks have one variation or another.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 1 week ago (12 children)

6 + 4 / 2 is 8 instead of 5?

The fundamental property of Maths that you have to solve binary operators before unary operators or you end up with wrong answers.

Maths is not about memorisation

It is for ROTE learners.

You are not supposed to remember that the area of a triangle is a * h / 2

Yes you are. A lot of students get the wrong answer when they forget the half.

you’re supposed to understand why it’s the case

Constructivist learners can do so, ROTE learners it doesn't matter. As long as they all know how to do Maths it doesn't matter if they understand it or not.

You’re supposed to be able to show that any triangle that can possibly exist is half the area of the rectangle it’s stuck in

No they're not.

If you’ve understood that once, there is no reason to remember anything because you can derive the formula at a moment’s notice.

And if you haven't understood it then there is a reason to remember it.

you can derive the formula at a moment’s notice

Students aren't expected to be able to do that.

All maths can be understood and derived like that

It can be by Constructivist learners, not ROTE learners.

The names of the colours, their ordering, the names of the planets and how they’re ordered, they’re arbitrary

No they're not. Colours are in spectrum order, the planets are in order from the sun.

Maths doesn’t, instead it dies when you apply memorisation

A very substantial chunk of the population does just fine with having memorised Maths.

What’s lazy about learning PEMDAS?

Nothing. Only people who don't know what they're talking about say that.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -1 points 1 week ago (4 children)

they aren’t teaching math.

Yes we are. Adults forgetting it is another matter altogether.

There’s no such thing as “order of operations” in math

Yes there is! 😂

Do you think I’m wrong?

No, I know you're wrong.

If so, why?

If you don't solve binary operators before unary operators you get wrong answers. 2+3x4=14, not 20. 3x4=3+3+3+3 by definition

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -1 points 1 week ago (4 children)

A division is defined as a multiplication

No it isn't. Multiplication is defined as repeated addition. Division isn't repeated subtraction. They just happen to have opposite effects if you treat the quotient as being the result of dividing.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I like the version where these problems are made purposefully ambiguous

None of them are ambiguous. They all have only 1 correct answer, just like this one only has 1 correct answer. They all test if people remember the order of operations rules. Those who got it wrong, don't.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the effort!

You're welcome.

[–] SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just proves, never too late to learn :-)

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