TheFriar

lol wut

That’s what my shoes were missing: spyware!

I just don’t see any scenario in which companies eliminate the need for employees, but keep paying them. And I don’t see any scenario in which these capitalist enterprises, clearly that give zero fucks about the impact of the tech as long as they hold the keys, don’t take that money and power to fight tax increases to fund UBI.

I see exactly what is happening now, and that has happened with all technological advances: careers getting eliminated for the bottom line, only for more meaningless jobs to be necessitated in their absence—jobs that offer less buying power for the paycheck they’re signing.

I obviously don’t know what will happen in the future. But trends don’t lie. Richer, more powerful companies, using that power and money to get richer and amass more power. Our government is already broken at current levels of corporate capitalism. More powerful corporations will not make things better for us. They will undoubtedly make the worse. Because the worse things are for us, the better they are for the ownership class.

We are all working class. And the class war is raging. We have just been losing.

And this is all before we even discuss the environmental impact of this stupid ass tech. Which is devastating. When we don’t have time for more environmental devastation.

“You’re gonna make an argument against my stupid position?! But I don’t wanna read four paragraphs!”

The mark of a truly confident, well-intentioned debater. Won’t take three minutes. To read…four paragraphs. mwah love it

I always know when someone doesn't have a good argument when they give me a dozen bad ones. 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 .... Still equals 0. No matter how many times you do it.

This. This is what you actually said. Directly after quoting exactly what I said. There’s…no other way to read that. You’re calling them non-problems that pale in comparison to the unabated advancement of capitalist expansion.

These tools, in the right hands, could be very useful. They could free us from work in the future.

But they’re not in the right hands. They’re in the hands of capitalists.

Whether those are Russian capitalists, US-based capitalists, Chinese capitalists, the aim is the same. Having these people own this tech isn’t good for humanity. As evidenced by the problems I listed; not only is it underage, nonconsensual porn made of real-ass people that you wrote off by saying some shit like, “it’s at best in poor taste and at worst harassment”…these are people’s fucking lives you’re talking about. So, you’re clearly a man, probably a white man. Because no one else would be so flippant about something that can so fucking devastate the lives of those affected.

But not only is that a problem we aren’t even trying to solve in the name of being “pro-business,” the biggest problem that somehow even manages to rank above kids killing themselves after their still-forming brains are fucking shattered by devastation, is what this does to the ongoing class war. Someone else ITT likened it to the invention of the nuke. And that’s true. But they said, in the geopolitical race it’s akin to the invention of the nuke, whereas I see it as nuke in the class war. And the ownership class is getting closer to holding it in their hands. But since it’s good for the economy and the politicians are on the side of the ownership class anyway, this problem isn’t even broached in this discussion. But it badly needs to be.

In a time of near unprecedented inequality, we are watching them hit the accelerator. Which is an apt comparison, because this tech is also hastening our head-on collision with climate apocalypse. While developing nations are being told to curb emissions, we in the superpower states are increasing our co2 output with this stupid tech. And you said some shit about nuclear and renewables and fuckin carbon taxes? Well, sure, those are hypothetical bandaids on this festering wound, but they’re just that. The acceleration of LLM/“AI” energy consumption while we break heat and natural disaster record after heat and natural disaster record—as that fucking climate apocalypse cliff edge approaches faster and faster is just…utter lunacy. And this alone should give us reason enough to change course. But that’s not the only reason.

So, yeah, I vehemently disagree with your characterization of these problems as “0+0+0” when it comes to the argument against AI.

“Kids no longer desire to go play outside.”

Outside: record heat waves; strip malls; endless, soulless commodification of human experience; hostile adults; constant, overprotective ties to the rest of the world via invasive tech; hostile capitalism…

Oh, and all this is depressing everyone.

So, my argument was “capitalism makes this tech dangerous” and your reasoning for disagreeing is basically, “but what if we don’t win capitalism because we try to protect people and the environment?”

What’s the ignorance? I think worrying about how we are going to curb these pretty consequential problems this technology in the hands of these particular companies brings is….pretty valid.

Also, did you say burning up the planet even faster, stealing and profiting off of people’s livelihood, and…fucking making nonconsensual porn of underage girls are “zero” problems? The fuck?

Not to mention…the worsening of class inequality? Do you just no see these as problems? Or…what exactly is the argument here.

Still. I think putting the brakes on “AI” is the right move right now. With its energy usage, intellectual property theft, nonconsensual (and underage) porn generating…not to mention its use by the ownership class to take and commodify human expression away from humans and the capitalist motive to profit over any consideration for the ramifications for the working class…I think halting this until we can get some protections in place for those this tech seems determined to exploit is a good thing.

Not that any of those problems will be solved even if we did hit the brakes. But, theoretically, yeah. I’m about it. Because, true to capitalist form, we are worsening the problems we haven’t even started trying to solve.

Toyota builds Phillip Jeffries and found he doesn’t want to talk about Judy. He doesn’t want to talk about Judy at all

I mean, I’m all for it. I’d be one of those people spending money on the online RDR2 if it were better. If they kept adding missions and story arcs to the campaign, I’d buy every one. But I honestly think gta V changed that company, in more recent years, even. It’s continued making absurd money. It’s literally The most profitable piece of media ever made.

Take Two probably kept winnowing down staff on other titles to bring them into the GTA team, whether that be 5 or 6. I don’t have proof of that, but it feels surprising they would be focusing on anything else after they got RDR 2 to market. I mean, look how bad the online game was initially. And it’s still pretty bad. They did update it a good amount (or so I’m told, I wasn’t around for the beginning. Playing RDR2 in the last two years literally made me a gamer. I’ve spent countless hours playing and replaying that campaign. And it still gets to me. So well written.) I actually just dropped replaying that campaign in the past few months to play Cyberpunk. Which I’m really enjoying, actually.

I’m just saying, they’ve made a lot of shitty moves as a company since 2018. I just wouldn’t be surprised if their entire focus is on GTAV online and GTAVI.

Right? I guess they were just making so much goddamn money from an 11 year old game, they didn’t have to even think about their best game.