aasatru

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[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 17 points 3 months ago

So they touch upon it on their site:

The pentagram icon is the original symbol for the fediverse, created back in 2018 by Dr. Quadragon and Eukombos. It’s a great depiction of the decentralised nature of the fediverse, and has been serving the community well. However, its design is a little too complex to be used at small sizes, as you would in text or in a button. It’s also only available in image form, not as a typographical character.

I think they have a valid point. Currently on my website I use a Mastodon logo next to email and git and all that jazz. It's not ideal, as it's not so important that I'm on Mastodon specifically (and I might move to a self-hosted #Seppo instance in the future), but the existing fediverse icon would not work well at that scale.

It's a huge branding effort to make it catch on though. And part of me likes the pentagram better.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 7 points 3 months ago

Yeah, mine too.

Which I'm fine with. If the metaphor is that the Fediverse is a fucking blizzard of snowflakes organizing against corporate social media, I'm all in for it. If it serves to alienate right wing weirdos then all the better. In the end it's all about freezing out the fascists.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah. It's the repost functionality common on Mastodon.

Back on Kbin.social I would have some followers from Mastodon, and when I saw a neat comment I would sometimes boost it and thereby push it straight to their feeds.

Same thing would work on Mbin, except that i don't have followers. Oh well, I still boost posts I find neat.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 9 points 3 months ago

This is how it is in mbin. Well, over at the instance I'm using at least.

I find it amusing sometimes, because I can see whether posts have been liked from Mastodon or other services. Gives some insight into how interconnected we really are.

I guess over at Lemmy you can't currently tell if your post is boosted by a Mastodon user. Sometimes they are, and in theory they can kind of live a life of their own from there on. It's fun to be able to see when it happens.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 3 points 3 months ago

I think it's a good sign - people are on here because they like it, not just because they are free software fanatics.

If nobody here had any Meta accounts I would be more worried, as it would mean we're completely detached from whatever normal people are up to.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, sure. But then again everyone should aim to behave in a way where it doesn't take goodwill not to ban them - especially here, where you might be banned from some instances but not others, and never even know it.

In that sense, if you were to migrate your profile, your bans should also migrate with you.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 4 points 3 months ago

"probably" is a nice word here. I have seen no indication that Mastodon plans to make their groups difficult to work with for other platforms. There is, however, many interests to take into account to ensure a good user experience, and not one solution is guaranteed to work well for everyone. What works in the Threadiverse might very well be terrible in Mastodon. They follow very different network dynamics.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 18 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Hi, and welcome!

Lemmy does not, as of now, interoperate very well with Fediverse services such as Mastodon and Pixelfed. Sure, you can follow Lemmy communities from Mastodon, but it's not a pleasant experience. The group just boosts everything that is ever posted to it.

Likewise, Lemmy does not work with Phanphy - it has its own API, and separate apps. It's too different from Pixelfed/Mastodon for it to make sense to share an API.

If you search for @elena@lemmy.world at mastodon.social you will, however, be able to see your user from there; you can view this post, and if you have an account you can comment on it and contribute to the discussion like anyone else. You can also boost the post or comments to it, making it possible for content from Lemmy to reach far and wide. We sometimes do get comments from Mastodon users, so it clear that this happens every now and then, but mostly it's kept separate.

Mastodon users can also post to Lemmy by tagging a community (like they would tag an a.gup.pe group), but it's not very intuitive.

We commonly refer to Lemmy as part of the Threadiverse - a subset of the Fediverse which revolves around threaded discussions around shared content (Reddit like). The main platforms are Lemmy, Mbin (which is what I'm currently posting from), and PieFed.

Mbin and PieFed go further in the direction of interoperability than Lemmy does. Mbin supports Mastodon-like microblogging; if you check out the search for the hashtag Lemmy, you'll see not only this post, but also microblogs from Mastodon and all kinds of content. Limited, of course, by what is federated with that instance (Kbin.earth doesn't have too many users).

In Piefed, users can follow Mastodon groups made with a.gup.pe, such as the knitting group. Often Mastodon users start their posts by tagging each other, so it doesn't look completely native, but it can be neat. You can also follow PeerTube channels directly in Piefed.

In short, it's quite complicated - there are different platforms, and they all solve interoperability differently and prioritize it to different degrees. There's always the possibility that Mastodon users will stop by and say hello, but how easy it is made for them to do so varies quite a lot.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 30 points 3 months ago

I had a bit of a slow start on Mastodon, but after sticking with it for a while it's now by far the best social media experience I've ever had. I follow less than 200 people, not all of them active, but their posts along with the content they boost provides a much more interesting feed for me than any algorithm ever has.

And when I post something I've put work into, it's boosted by those interested and reaches far more relevant people than I've ever reached on other networks. And people trust it to be interesting because it's boosted by someone they trust, rather than some faceless algorithm.

That said, the cost of entry is indeed a bit high.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 6 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Ah yeah, it's not possible on Mastodon either. Your content stays where it is.

I think it's even less of a problem on the Threadiverse than it is on Mastodon though. Most people are interested in new content here, we rarely go digging too much through the archives. Though it would of course be neat.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)
  • Consider writing an introduction post. "Hello, I'm [this person], and I'm interested in [this and that]. I'll be posting about  [these things], and I'm passionate about [something]." Tag it #introduction, along with other tags relevant to your interests. Check out what other people have written in their introduction for inspiration. Pin the introduction to your profile. Personally I never got around to writing one, but I'm pretty sure I would have had more followers if I did.
  • Write who you are in your bio - what can people expect if they follow you? Who are you? It doesn't need to disclose your true identity, but people follow other people on Mastodon, so it's good to make it look a bit personal.
  • Tag a relevant a.gup.pe. The group will boost your post to all its followers, making your post visible on more instances even if you don't have followers there yet. If you asked this on Mastodon, you might for example tag @fediverse@a.gup.pe and @mastodon@a.gup.pe, though neither are unfortunately very big. At least your post is likely to get pushed to the largest instances, and some people who are interested might see it in their feeds.
  • Throw in some relevant hashtags. Some Mastodon clients will hide them a bit if they're at the end of the post.
  • Search for content, follow relevant people when you see them. It takes a bit of time, but gradually you'll expand your network and get momentum. If you're in a small instance, you might search for relevant hashtag at a more central hub (like mastodon.social) or a more specialized one (like sciences.social if you're into social sciences)
[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 18 points 3 months ago (7 children)

On Mastodon it's all about who you're following and who you're being followed by, so being able to move somewhere else and take your followers with you is a big deal.

On the Threadiverse we don't really follow users so much, so the whole concept of account migration becomes very different. Migration of communities rather than of users would probably be the best parallel - it would be great if subscribers could automatically follow a migrating community without having to manually resubscribe.

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