There wasn't really a material need to invent concepts such as agriculture, debt and other kinds of concepts we recognize as part of documented human history and development. There's no need to farm if few humans there are can sustain themselves via hunting and gathering, neither do you need wheels for transportation. Once there was a historical need due to higher populations or weather not allowing foraging, that's when the concepts got invented and allowed us to build on that with other discoveries and concepts that led us here.
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The average workers for Israel literally go on the news to yell how happy they are to have a chance to contribute to the atrocities.
First of all, how do you even arrive to the conclusion that it's the "average workers" based off of a couple of people whom they might have grabbed off the street or maybe somewhere specific like a pro-war protest that admittedly do happen.
Second of all, the media is literally nationalized by Israeli government who have an imperialistic interest in the war, and maybe it's a crazy theory but maybe spreading such propaganda and exclusively shaping pro-war narratives is part of their job? Like, if someone dissents and says anti-war slogans on state media, they'll just arrest them and cut the recording out until they find a more aligned person or just script it entirely?
Regardless of what you think about political systems, sometimes it’s just that people are inherently evil. As the US elections showed us.
There's a long and exhausting debate that can be had here, but I personally disagree strongly because this is the type of rhetoric and narratives that fascists spin, but turn it against who they paint as enemies. It's the material conditions that drive human behavior and who they support, and things have been going downhill which prompted people to turn reactionary, start trusting the pro-Trump propaganda, refusing to trust "liberal owned media" and this is something that's happening worldwide with the rise of far-right. Trump himself didn't drop out of the sky and ruined everything, things were already broken enough for people like him to take the opportunity.
Okay, let's ignore for a moment the fact that most of these reports come from sources who would imperialistically benefit from Israel's failure (like Iran, Saudi) and the fact that Israelis also have an oppressive government who isn't afraid to suppress dissent and there might be a degree of intimidation as an incentive for people to just say that they support it - this tells us that ALL of Israeli nationals are ontologically evil. That an entire nationality is a hivemind, and all of them without exception are evil. If this is what you truly believe, then welcome back Adolf Hitler.
As for resistance, even though I personally think protests are pathetic, Israel has those - anti-government and anti-war protests where you have the far-right ramming cars into the protestors. There's also numerous conscientious objectors in there who were being conscripted into IDF but refused, landing them in jail. Also, active censures from work and school for pro-Palestine sentiments. The latest act of resistance from what I've seen was thousands of Israelis marching on a military base to end the starvation in the region.
Now be so kind and stop dehumanizing other people, especially workers.
Yup, there's a ton of people online who obsess about "doing something", without thinking of what that's actually going to achieve or who they're actually affecting
What's the point though? The atrocities committed are being orchestrated by the ruling capitalists and politicians in Israel, not the average worker who has no say other than the threat of jail for soldiers who refused to commit them, and even those that do are tricked by indoctrination that it somehow benefits them.
The only ones benefitting are the capitalists, not workers who might be torrenting
Whoops, that's what you get when you don't read what you write