Incorrect, actually. Firefox for Android uses Gecko like the desktop version, while the iOS version is stuck with WebKit.
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Maybe your GPU is set to a low power mode? I wonder if something like CoreCtrl might help you.
I don’t have this problem on my Debian 12 machines, which both use this browser on XFCE, but they have AMD graphics. Then again, I don’t online game that often, but when I have, I don’t recall any problems.
Not necessarily. It’s currently on the latest ESR version. I use the repo version on my laptop (stable) and testing and don’t have this problem.
In recent years, Debian has gotten a lot better about keeping stuff on the current ESR version.
Actually, with the work done on box86/box64, you might be able to get stuff running well - last I heard, they got triple A games running around 45 FPS on Asahi.
However, it would be totally unsupported, and who knows how well the Apple M series optimizations will work on another member of the ARM family.
Really, the biggest issue is probably power usage - I don’t know if it’s enough to increase your power bill significantly, but it would definitely consume more power than say, an i7. This is due to Altra CPUs really being more for server usage - performance per watt will likely be better overall for those kinds of workloads, but you’re probably not going to make full use of the hardware. These systems are really more of server dev kits than daily drivers.
For a desktop, I’d just recommend a PC with a high end consumer grade CPU like an i7 or Ryzen 7.
At least later GTK fixed the whole file picker thing, though.
How old is your laptop? Pretty much every Windows machine I've ever owned after a certain year requires you to type in your Bitlocker key, including my first-gen Surface Go from 2018.
Also, you often have to manually set up encryption on most Linux installs as well - I did it for my Thinkpad. I need to do it for my desktop as well - I should probably do a reinstall, but I'm thinking of backing everything up and trying to do it in-place just for fun. On top of that, we can finally transition to btrfs.
I do use that sometimes. I was able to use it to look at similar laptop models to my Thinkpad to inform my purchase. I then uploaded a probe when I got my hands on it.
I see the need for posts with recommendations in some ways, though - neither the main site or the forum are the easiest to parse, and it doesn't have every computer model. It is nice to have a human to guide you - it just isn't so nice when the community starts to get cluttered with these requests.
Honestly part of it is some of these people just don't do online research, and they might not read the community rules anyway, but it would be nice if we had an explicit rule that hardware recommendations either go to the annual post or be for very oddly specific needs.
I have been using Debian - it's the only distro I've used in my 3 years of Linux as a daily driver, and I started using it in VMs instead of Ubuntu a while before that.
I also like stability and Debian's community-oriented nature.
I am currently on Testing for my desktop, but plan to either go stable or do a reinstall when Trixie hits stable - I'm tired of rolling release and my programs changing frequently. I have really enjoyed Debian 12 + Flatpaks on my Thinkpad, so I think I will do that when summer rolls around.
Oh certainly. OP is probably doing something wrong. This was just a good excuse to vent about real problems with GTK.
On another note, I sometimes get tired of "Please recommend a good laptop" posts - they're always just the same old advice: "I liked my Framework" or "Get a Thinkpad".
I kind of wonder if we could just have an annual mega-post for Linux hardware that gets pinned and mentioned in the server links. For example, "(Pinned) Linux Hardware 2025". Then we have a rule that you don't do hardware recommendation posts unless it's something extremely oddly specific, like "Best Linux hardware for a Pentium II build" or maybe even a question about people's experiences with VFIO on recent motherboard.
I mean, this might be a bit more your fault in this case, but I agree with the sentiment.
They're always changing something about the CSS sheets, and I find it a pain to develop for, granted it's been a few years since I last touched it, and on a very hobbyist level at that. I quickly switched to Qt for that project. Now I use wxWidgets, which I guess just uses GTK, but I like that I don't have to directly deal with GTK.
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Half of these exist because I was bored once.
The Windows 10 and MacOS ones are GPU passthrough enabled and what I occasionally use if I have to use a Windows or Mac application. Windows 7 is also GPU enabled, but is more a nostalgia thing than anything.
I think my PopOS VM was originally installed for fun, but I used it along with my Arch Linux, Debian 12 and Testing (I run Testing on host, but I wanted a fresh environment and was too lazy to spin up a Docker or chroot), Ubuntu 23.10 and Fedora to test various software builds and bugs, as I don't like touching normal Ubuntu unless I must.
The Windows Server 2022 one is one I recently spun up to mess with Windows Docker Containers (I have to port an app to Windows, and was looking at that for CI). That all become moot when I found out Github's CI doesn't support Windows Docker containers despite supporting Windows runners (The organization I'm doing it for uses Github, so I have to use it).
Another update: https://startrek.website/post/13283869 I found a fix for my issue. I'm annoyed that I had it in the first place, but I overall still like my laptop.
Important update in this post: https://startrek.website/post/14075369 I still consider this a good laptop, but this is an important fix if you're using this on Debian 12. When 13 comes out next year, the out-of-box support of this laptop should be basically perfect.
Anyhow, back to the original post: I recently got a brand new laptop, a Thinkpad 21JT001PUS, to consolidate/replace my array of various on-the-go-Linux devices, and I have to say, I'm impressed. I know Thinkpad and Linux aren't news, but for such a recent device, I am surprised how well it works. The price wasn't bad (which makes up for the fact that it's a Zen 3 chip with DDR4, in my opinion), it has good upgradability (I'll touch a bit on my experience later), and hardware support was really good.
I initially tested hardware support with Debian Testing Trixie XFCE (as that was the Live USB I happened to have on hand, since I often test devices and also keep it around as a backup for my desktop, which runs Testing). At first I couldn't get it to boot, but then I found the BIOS setting to enable non-Microsoft certificates. After that, I booted in and found everything worked out of the box (except the fingerprint sensor, of course, but that's extremely rare for any laptop anyway). However, after experience with my previous portable devices, I learned I prefer stable distributions on those, as during some parts of the year, I can go months without opening the laptop.
Thus, I retested with Bookworm. Almost everything worked still, except for the Wi-Fi (which seems to have been introduced in later kernel versions). Luckily, this thing has an ethernet port (From which it is HECK to remove cables - I've found I had to twist the end up a bit to get it out), so I was able to do an install and then add the Backports kernel to get Wi-Fi working.
One minor issue I had (a software fault rather than a hardware/kernel one) was Bluetooth headphones, but as it turned out, it was just that PulseAudio was installed instead of Pipewire, so after switching, it worked flawlessly with Blueman).
As for battery life, so far it seems okay (as I write this, it says 3:29 left at 51%), but I haven't rigorously tested it yet (though I threw on the usual tlp and stuff like that for good measure).
For performance, I once again haven't tested it too rigorously, but I did play some Civ VI, which it was keeping up with just fine.
The upgrabability of this laptop does have one caveat, though. The bottom is a bother to remove, and most Youtube crap conveniently glosses over them. For one, some of the screws would get loose but not come out all the way. I eventually found the trick was to throw some pry tool under the screw head to hold it up so I could get it the rest of the way out. After they were all out, the bottom cover STILL wouldn't budge. This too ended up being a matter of jamming a pick in one corner of the case and running another one to slowly pry up the bottom case on all sides. I lost a plastic tab or two in the process, but that doesn't show up on the outside, and I think 24 GB of RAM (and 2 TB of NVME 2280 storage + 256 GB, the Windows drive that I left in the 2242 bay) will be plenty for a long time.
Overall, I would say this is a great laptop for those who don't want to go the route of purchasing a used laptop for Linux. I'll say an 8.5 out of 10 due to the hard-to-remove bottom cover and weird ethernet port (Update: 8 out of 10 now due to the nasty Wi-Fi bug I had to fix with a few module options, see posts linked in top of page).
Here's the Linux Hardware probe: https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=1e50fb1862
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Weird. I don’t have this problem on my laptop or desktop; both use AMD GPUs.