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Copyright/IP/patent law started as way to allow people to feed themselves off their labour

Check out what happened when copyrights were first enacted. It was another enclosures "gold rush" where scammers went around and copied traditional songs people were using and declated copyrights, then went around and sued those same people.

Copyright law is broken. But I don’t think that means we have no obligations to each other as human beings when we build on each other’s work.

Absolutely! This is why I said anything built on public work, should be public goods as well.

We had the same argument during the crypto craze. The financial system is broken, but 10 years later I think we all agree that crypto is pretty clearly not the answer.

That's not a good comparison. Crypto was a (bad) solution looking for a problem. GenAI already has use-cases.

Nostr will just end up like voat

They won't, of course. But they will use the pressure towards copyrights against AI to kill open source GenAI progress. But at least when advocating for Open models, you don't hurt the people who are doing FOSS.

You cannot stop GenAI unless you stop sales of all gaming GPUs and recall all sold ones world wide. You just can't. That cat's out of the bag. You can try to restrict big corpos like OpenAI, but your politicians and bought already. Therefore adding your voice to trying to "stop GenAI" via copyright laws is just playing yourself. You can try to restrict GenAI via climate protections, but that will go as well as efforts to stop supporting genocides (or as well efforts have gone to protect the climate anyway).

This is exactly what people like me warned about. The push for copyright-protections against GenAI is not going to stop GenAI. It's just going to create a future where only the big players can make AI models because they can pay for "licenses" with those strong enough to threaten them (while scraping everyone else anyway) and just kill open sourced models.

We're seeing it play it exactly like that. Y'all can't stop GenAI. You literally don't have enough power where it counts. The only sane solution is to push that any GenAI model trained on public data must have open weights by default.

Seriously, if the damn creator of mastodon it's making 60k Eur in Germany, there's no hope for Foss being sustainable.

Reminds me of the classic

• Can't have minorities as slaves anymore.
• Make harmless drugs used by said minorities illegal.
• Make for-profit prisons.
• Jail minorities for using harmless drugs and make them work for free in prison.

"it's not slavery, it's just punishment which doesn't burden the taxpayer"

I was poor. Pirates selling copied disks on the street was all I could afford

Welcome to our instance!

I'm curious to see how the cops found out who's they were to arrest them