h3ndrik

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[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago

To follow that up: 45W isn't that bad. Depending on where you live, I'd say it's worth it if you get something out of it. (Be able to fit the HDDs, upgradability, ...)

Ultimately you'd need to do the maths. Check what it costs to afford an additional 20W of power in a year and whether you should spend that money on better hardware. If my maths is right, 20W for a year at a high price of 30ct/kWh is about $52. So there isn't that much to be gained. And your electricity might be considerably cheaper anyways.

[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Hmmh, No I don't think you can make the idle power consumption go down. Sure, you got to set the right options in the BIOS and Linux. But there is a baseline and that's with which chipset the mainboard was designed and what kind of components they chose.

And there's the efficiency of the power supply. Usually they're built to have a certain degree of efficiency (>80% or >90%) but that's measured at a certain percentage of the maximum power draw. They're not at all that efficient at 40W draw. You'd need an expensive PSU not to lose additional efficiency at low power. And generally they don't come with a standard PC.

So you'd probably end up replacing half of the components of a standard PC while making it more power efficient. And I don't think that'll be cheap. You better find something that's already designed to factor that in. Sadly it's not what they print on every PC. You have to look for that info and sometimes it's buried in some PC magazine forum or on Reddit. Sometimes they have additional tricks to squeeze out a tiny bit more, but you better be fine with that number.

I think mostly it's about the mainboard. Most of the time there are some chipsets that are known to be more power efficient than others. But I'm not up to date anymore and can't give any good recommendations.

If you want it cheap and most power efficient, generally the advise is to use an old laptop. They're made to idle at like 10-15W. But you won't get any SATA ports that way. You'd need external HDDs and connecting them via USB isn't really super reliable. It's frowned upon to use a setup like that for RAID or advanced things... But it's how I started back in the day.

With the upgradability it's always the question. That's an additional requirement that makes it more difficult. If it's an old machine you could end up needing to replace most of it anyways, since you need a new mainboard for a new CPU and along with that the next generation of RAM and then you've replaced most of your computer anyways. I'd say there is a limited window of opportunity when upgrading makes sense. But if you're buying an old machine it may not always be a good idea to make it a requirement.

[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 6 points 6 months ago

Most important thing with FUTO is, they learn how to do open source and engage with a community. Maybe it helps if they adopt a few projects with existing communities and which are more than source available.

[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Most mainboards in full-sized PCs aren't optimized for power efficiency. But there are some (few) efficient mainboards and PSUs available.

The german c't magazine publishes guides to build efficient home-servers or workstations every other year. But that's well above your budget: https://www.heise.de/ratgeber/Bauvorschlag-fuer-einen-sparsamen-Heimserver-aus-c-t-3-2024-9587594.html (400€ new, 17W idle)

The Lenovo seems to draw around 45 Watts on idle. You could go well below 20 Watts if you wanted.

I'd say for most power efficiency along an extremely low budget, you want an old laptop as a home server, or a mini pc like an Intel NUC. But you might want to refine your requirements... What do you need that thing for? How many SATA-Ports etc do you need? Are you more willing to compromise on price or power efficiency?

[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Sure? Maybe also small Wikis for some communities.

[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Hehehe. Yeah they put everything in on their site. From a canary to their company ethics, to an origin story, all necessary buzzwords, job offers (which they have none), a marketplace ... Lot's of flowery words. And honestly, it doesn't even smell like AI generated text. They've probably mastered the bullshit bingo and decided to go all in. I kinda like it (in a twisted way.)

[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Oh wow, thx. No. I'm just clueless. And there is a cultural difference, so souvereign citizens aren't the first thing that comes to my mind when reading that word... But thanks for explaining the joke to me, anyways 😅

[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

And how do ultra-libertarians tie into the topic of hosting open source services?

[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 0 points 6 months ago (6 children)

Sry, I don't get at all what you're trying to say...

[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (9 children)

How's it standing out? What's the benefit over other self-hosting distros like YunoHost, Cosmos, Cloudron etc? Except the added Bitcoin?

[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 8 points 6 months ago

You're right. I implied that with the "additionally". I don't like Ruby on Rails and all the resource usage of Mastodon anyways. I'd like something more efficient and with less frameworks involved.

[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Craigslist / Facebook Marketplace

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