hendrik

Well that's kind of baked-in to social media. If you'd otherwise talk to lots of different people in person, read much etc and now come to the internet and choose any of the mentioned platforms... That'd be bad. You're now in a smaller filter bubble. If you're already in some echo chamber and for example switch from mastodon to bluesky... that's a minor change. The situation is a bit different if you change from a nazi platform to a regular one. It's still not good. But better.

That'd be a post for !TIL@lemmy.world

With "drama" I was going for the built-in drive towards negativity and sensationalist stuff. Like people complaining and sharing outrageous news that stirs them up. I think it's well established that people are more incentivised to engage with content they disagree with, rather than nuanced or positive things. I'm no exception. I've had a superb weekend, did a day trip with some friends, sports (climbing) etc. But somehow I don't talk about that on the internet but end up painting a dark picture about the near future. And my real-world conversations aren't like that. In face to face conversations I also talk about mundane stuff, what made my day, recommend positive things to friends... I think we have some unhealthy dynamics baked into internet talk, due to the way our platforms are set up and due to how attention works.

Sure. The internet killed newspapers. And there is no easy fix. We'd need easy payment methods, value the labour of the journalists... And that wasn't available when this happened. And nowadays we have a few other issues on top. Originally, the internet wasn't supposed to do any of that. It was supposed to connect people all around the globe. Make information available to everyone...

I think a lot of the unhealthy dynamics aren't baked into the internet itself, but due to people making everything about money and advertising. I think we (theoretically) could do without. And make the internet a very different place. It doesn't seem this is happening. But I still got some places (Linux forums etc) with a very different atmosphere. I'm not sure where we'll end up in like 15 years. Maybe after reaching rock bottom. I've also watched and read too much science fiction. Currently it looks to me like we're headed for the 2006 movie Idiocracy. But H G Wells is fine, too.

Yeah, judging by your comments, you're not a classic troll. I couldn't judge from your original post, because you could either genuinely not know about the global modlog and the text area at the top to put your username in... Or post this for another reason. And I mean I was right and you got quite some reaction and attention specifically to your person. And that'd be something a troll would feed from.

Idk. I think things like posting something out of ulterior motives, like not meaning literally what you write, but instead writing something to make people (re)think something... Or playing advocatus diaboli... Or other things like that are closely related to trolling. It's not the same. But everything is a spectrum anyways.

And in that regard idk why I got downvoted. I didn't say you are a troll. I said think about OP, they could have a hidden motive like if they were a troll...

Sure. Mainstream media comes with it's very own set of issues. And I'm glad I have the internet available. But social media is bound to get you engaged in some drama or bubble instead of objective truth. I don't have any solution to offer. And I think the internet in general, is bound to get worse for some time to come. More AI, more noise, misinformation, enshittification. I think we're in for a dry spell in the near future. Maybe it get's better after that with some technological or societal advances. Maybe not, we're going to see. But it seems to me there are some people out there wishing for a better situation.

The thing with that is, it happily makes up business hours and venues. And you end up in some dark alley without any entertainment. Or a different kind than you envisioned...I doubt someone does this more than once or twice...

Sure. I'm living in a different filter bubble anyways. Ticketmaster seems to be big but it isn't the only platform where I live. I guess I'm not really mainstream and I go to smaller concerts, festivals, art museums. And a lot of them have different ticket services. So I usually end up googling them and following the trail of links to the individual ticket shop.

I'm 10 years younger than you. Maybe a bit more. I grew up with the rise of social media. I still despise how it confines me into a filter bubble. Makes my world smaller (despite connecting me with the world) by choosing my perspective. I take care to occasionally read local news. And not take my political perspective from platforms with an algorithm tailored to shape my perspective.

But I get it. Not everyone does it like me. But I think we have a big problem with algorithms and media literacy.

Thank you for all the detailed explanation. Seems I wasn't aware of lots of current events. Especially regarding Lemmy. I always thought it can't be too hard syncing posts to 45k (monthly active) users... I guess there's still some way to go.

By the way, Piefed does not pull in remote communities by default. It only does it once a local user subscribes. And that's why a lot of them are missing on my own instance. I skipped quite some of the meme communities when I switched. And I'm already trying to foster smaller instances. I don't subscribe to communities on lemmy.ml and I'd like to have an alternative to lemmy.world. But you're right. A lot of the activity here happens on lemmy.world and we can't do without.

And last Lemmy instance I used was discuss.tchncs.de which always seemed fine. But it has a very capable admin and is located in Germany, so probably not too far out.

My uptime should be less than other servers. I'm using it for testing and development. And sometimes I break stuff and it's down until i figure things out.

Uh, right. Sorry, I did not notice you were from Piefed... I was talking about the times when we had the borked Lemmy updates... Did you ever debug or resolve your issues? Is there a way to tell something didn't federate? And is this an issue specific to Piefed? Or to the whole Fediverse? I'm not sure if I'm affected. I occasionally check my posts from another account and it always seems okay. But I mean I don't do it very often.

OP might be a classic internet troll. Those like to stir up arguments and some small drama. They're not necessarily sarcastic or surprised or anything. That's just a means to get people agitated and react a certain way.

And how do non-old people navigate the web? I mean I get it, you don't need to google the Wikipedia article about the French Revolution... You can ask AI. But how do you find business hours for the repair shop downtown? Which website sells the concert tickets? News from yesterday? The forum that tells you if 32GB of RAM fit into your laptop?

Right. Learning Lemmy and the Fediverse takes some effort. The onboarding isn't super smooth and flawless... I think we all know this. I'd still like to see a few design changes. I think generally we're headed in the right direction. Albeit kind of slowly.

I haven't noticed any federation hiccups in quite some time. There was some debacle with two updates. But since then it's been forwarding posts within seconds for me. At least on the last two instances I used.