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Has the thought ever occur to you, that maybe Russia can just leave Ukraine be? Just maybe another country that is resisting wants to keep it's sovereignty? Maybe the Tankie word is for people that fails to have any critical thought?

Ukraine had a national identity before Lenin, tho. Although the dude is/was ahead of it's time. And the social idealism that follows looks pretty neat. Sadly he quickly died and another fella came to power. Usually when people bash USSR they bash Stalin's regime. It's far from socialist ideals. You shouldn't mix it up and just nitpick what you like.

If people are subjugated and still remain under democratic rule, they can still be under repression, due to voting majority. It's the same reason why Israel fears giving the vote access to palestinians.

You can try to follow Nazi fascism idea of fascism by following history notebooks. But it will get us nowhere. Without common definition that we have. Since for example Lithuania had a president which was with dictatorial levels of power during the time. He was not aligned with Nazi Germany. What kind of word would you use to describe the rule? There are reasons why fascism is defined like it is.

And dude, you can't be racist against a country. You and I operate with completely different definitions. I doubt we'll come to a conclusion. Would love to discuss it next to a beer, since it's fascinating to find these so wildly difderent ideas. How do you even get to a point where you know so much but manage to draw completely different conclusions.

Ukrainians aren't russian. Their language is different. Their culture is drastically different. Damn even regions inside Ukraine could count as different cultures.

For the split. It happened quite recently. I do recommend talking to people why they split and what was the common ideas on the streets back then from people who lived there. There were massive forced mixing in of Russians in those countries. Those people are usually the ones that still find as "it was better back then".

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Just beause Russian Empire rebranded itself it ia still basically the same size with the same subjugated people. The same yakut people are still subjugated. The cataclysmic event you're talking about is workers revolt. The other is the collapse where quite a bit of countries at least managed to escape. All we can hope is for the fall of russia and for other cultures to emerge.

Here is the common definition: Fascism - A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

Even if you have 2 fascist countries, their goals and decisions are and usually is different.

And for consent. Look at bloody linux distros. Even if people actually want consent, it is basically impossible to achieve. Every expert will interpret it differently and you will have multiple narratives.

You keep clinging on little details. Russia is an empire due to how many smaller nations were conquered to the east. Just like USA is an Empire etc. Current rebranding doesn't change the fact.

Fuck ton of countries were fascist just before and during WWII. It's not a serious argument to make here. Fascism is just getting to power without democratic means.

And for the Finns. I honestly feel sad for you, if you believe there is a conspiracy theory that managed to brainwash an entire nation.

Most history textbooks barely mention Finland at all. They will often not even tell you they were Axis-aligned. You have to read historians writing specifically about this topic. No lazy bones.

Most of history textbooks barely mention WWII by the same notion. I won't argue I might know too little about the history of Finland. Although seeing how overwhelmingly current day Finns seem to oppose Russia and often mention the Winter War. It does seem that USSR was the worse of two evils there.

Like I said, this does not excuse allying with Nazis.

That's the point. They had a choise. Either side with the Allies and hence USSR (which fucked them up) or ally with Germany. It was an obvious only choise for them.

This was not tribal

The point is that tribal "us vs them" is just common. Same goes with countries. It depends if the group has a common identity.

Why do you even want to defend an empire?

What on earth are you talking about?

False understanding of your stance on my part. Sorry for that. I thought you're defending the current day Russian state.

Well I guess if he trusts them, he will welcome in open arms once the sanctions are lifted. Or if they get a non russian state domain to operate from.

Have you ever wondered if a russian can get a non .ru domain, and still collaborate? .ru and .su tlds are directly controlled by the Russian state

Open source IP laws operate under the jurisdiction of the citizen's country. What kind of principles do you think open source represents? Because if it's about free movement of information and global collaboration, I'm pretty sure that pirates are the group that better represents those values

I'm surprised how many people treat GPL to ignore borders. The IP law still operates only by the rules your country decides.

I can understand the desire for information to be free, but unless Open source movement becomes it's own country the discussion should end there.

Aren't the removed commiters with direct access to the kernel? It's not like it's some rando that makes pull requests.

I guess it's difficult to otherwise explain the position you have? It's not like people face criminal charges in Russia just for speaking against it. It's easy to see how the state would want to introduce backdoors to most western systems.

It's extremely sad that a lot of good Russians get swooped in this. But even abroad their lives are in danger to fight the state.