indigomirage

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[–] indigomirage@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

AFAIK, the only difference between codium and vscode is that telemetry is stripped out. I haven't used it, but I imagine it's great. It works the same as vscode in other respects. (unless someone corrects me here).

The main issues I have with the vscode/codium approach is that remote ssh works by installing and executing a server at the remote location (including installation of extensions).

To me, this is convenient but risky - it necessitates prerequisites on the remote server (which caused issues for older server installs), it leaves stuff behind on the remote (if you just want to edit a config why would you want to litter the remote server?). Fundamentally I'm not sure why this isn't a very, very serious potential vector for malware - others can correct me. Do you want to inadvertently put 3rd party nice-to-have extensions written by just anyone running remotely?

They could mitigate this by having an official extension than has an option to do simple sftp access with local caching (as is done with many other editors like UEdit, npp, mc, vim, etc...). Most 3rd party extensions for this that I've seen seem very janky. It begs for something official.

My other issues with vscode are subjective - it lacks virtual space editing, and, frankly the whole thing is a bit slow for me. Again, this is subjective.

[–] indigomirage@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

I'll look, though at first blush it looks like an exceedingly complicated way to just simply select beyond line endings and have white space automatically padded when typing in at the (multi) cursor.

It might be great though - I need to try. (and I do recognize that there are many ways to do things)

I have to say Ultra Edit sites this so well (so does Visual Studio and MSSQL Management Studio). Maybe it's a wierd feature want, but I'm not so sure...

[–] indigomirage@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

Excellent - I was not aware!

[–] indigomirage@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

Thank you - next on list was trying to find an appropriate package in neovim to do this. (I was never in doubt that something existed - I mean, even midnight commander has this built in!)

[–] indigomirage@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

I actually like sublime but the lack of virtual space for block selection (for a paid editor) moved out way down the list for me.

The plugins feel a bit janky and sparse too.l and the ecosystem feels a bit deserted.

[–] indigomirage@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago (5 children)

It's a good idea. But fundamentally, it suffers from the same (other) issues as vscode itself.

[–] indigomirage@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For sure - but it's a matter of getting accustomed to vi. I also prefer to really understand what each add on does. Not ruling out pre-packaged, but am working through assembling my own config first.

And then there's learning vi (I can use it, it's just not yet second nature).

[–] indigomirage@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

My go-to ages ago was UltraEdit. But I am not sure I want to fork over the cash. I'm contemplating Sublime. But I'm kind of diving into NeoVim to see if I can get used to it (vi isn't natural for me at this time). It has the potential advantage of being terminal based and is therefore very portable. There are a ton of great modules and it is very activately being improved.

The killer feature that UltraEdit and Notepad++ have is virtual space (ie you can extend vertical blocks over lines that are shorter that the cursor position and it'll automatically extend the line with white space. For SQL (and other things) this is a godsend for right aligned right brackets etc. (oh Geany does this too but it's a very janky feeling application.)

Sublime doesn't have it. Vscode ignores ongoing pleas to add it. Not sure NeoVim will have it, but there's no cost to me for trying.

The main things holding me back from UEdit are cost, and he fact that UEStudio is windows only. Not being terminal based is also a strike against it, but not a showstopper. It's just too much money when an employer isn't paying.

I know emacs exists but it's too deep a rabbit hole when I just want a go to edit text with a few minor bells and whistles...

[–] indigomirage@lemmy.ca 18 points 9 months ago (18 children)

Not being able to see the source code of extensions, and having them loaded and executing remotely really ought to be a non-starter, but for some reason we find ourselves ok with this?

Maybe there are checks and balances? I really don't know - but I certainly don't know what they are.

I'm actively exploring alternative cross-platform editors for this and other vscode usability reasons.

[–] indigomirage@lemmy.ca 33 points 9 months ago (22 children)

Vscode remote ssh is clever, to be clear, and in many cases is ideal. But it seems to me that they really need to ship an out-of-the-box extension that does edit over sftp with local caching as a fallback option. Notepad++ does this and it's great.

I know that there are a bunch of 3rd party extensions that seem to do this but most seem a little bit janky as you dig in to it. This needs to be an official Microsoft extension.

In general, I don't want my IDE running or depositing anything on my servers that I haven't explicitly asked for, especially if a main goal is to simply edit config files easily via a familiar editor application. Basically a 'leave no trace' philosophy (for the sake of predictability, consistency and control, not for any nefarious reasons).

(that said, remote ssh with vscode server is fantastic - but only when I actually want it).

[–] indigomirage@lemmy.ca 25 points 9 months ago

As per Apple's wishes, I imagine.

[–] indigomirage@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

Note that if you want actual virtualization then perhaps Proxmox (not sure if it manages multiple hypervisors - I haven't obtained something to test it on yet). Portainer is best for Docker management (it, and it's client agents, run as docker containers themselves. Don't forget to enable web sockets if proxying.

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