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But loans are temporal. That's all that is happening – you're renting out software (akin to digital library borrowing), in some sense, not buying a product.

The problem is how to do it otherwise and maintain enough income to ensure continued active development for future updates.

I don't have a solution to it, and subscriptions aren't ideal, but that's the problem at least.

Yeah I think this presents a genuine problem for the active development of apps for smaller developers, for sure.

Right but OP isn't talking about Stremio/Torrentio without Real Debrid, and neither is the guy in the comment chain you were replying to. I'm not sure you've a good grip on what Debrid services are by saying "just another Netflix"; it reads like you're imposing your grievance about Stremio onto a thread that mentions it but does not recommend the use case you specifically object to.

That's a fair criticism, but worth noting that if you're plugging in an RD API then the vast majority of the time you're not torrenting at all (and never on your network). You're downloading from the cache. One person, one time has to request a torrent file to that cache. Which has likely always happened before you're making any requests, unless it's something very niche indeed.

Many people think you do not, for the reason I just mentioned in a reply to the comment you're replying to. There are other reasons you might think it wise, but it is not true that with this setup you are torrenting on your home network.

If you are using torrentio, you are downloading via torrent on your home network.

Because you can configure Torrentio to work with an RD API, this is not true. That's the point of the setup – the end user is neither seeding nor leeching any torrent files. They are using the add-on to access a cache elsewhere, providing them with a simple and encrypted DDL.

It's a question of whether they would ever get subpoenaed really, and then whether they'd comply. I'm not sure it's worth it from the copyright holders' perspective. The individual users are getting DDL links, so they're not uploading – i.e. "sharing" – anything. These days, if holders go after anyone, it's for the sharing not the downloading. As for compliance, I don't think we have any evidence one way or the other, as (afaik) they are yet to be subpoenaed (despite running for a long time).

It's also worth noting if you do want to do this totally privately: when you buy an RD subscription, you cannot use a VPN during that process (they block known IPs). So, you would want to use a public WiFi connection somewhere, and choose an anonymous payment method like paysafecard.

With your capitalisation of "rip" there, I nearly had a heart attack thinking something (implausibly) had signalled the end of rips from streaming platforms lol.

It is an interesting project, not sure where it goes. The title is deeply misleading though. The features of ReVanced make YouTube so much better, whereas this project doesn't seem to be about making YouTube better so much as circumnavigating YouTube for the comment boxes and as your hub to creators. They seem to be doing different things.

I'm a bit astonished how often I see this kind of thread, even here. It's like when people complain about FOSS apps charging subscriptions or standalone fees. How many times does it have to be pointed out that piracy as an activity does not define piracy as a movement or a collective?

I'm certain this simplistic "piracy = not paying for stuff" take can only come from a kind of ignorant individualism, one that lacks any structural analysis of why, when, and for what content people turn to piracy (and why, when, etc, they stop).